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your 11,652 posts in a raptors message board automatically give you a 5. then your previous experience as a mod on the board, bumps you up another 2. your unwavering love of bargnani, bumps you up another 1. then add your previously stated 2.Matt52 wrote:
you're a 10
You definitely deserve a 10.Wow...I'm the only dick arrogant enough to give myself a 10?
Seriously though, going with Joey Hesketh's last line....I'm currently living 5-6 hours ahead of Toronto time (in the Netherlands)...I'm not sure I've missed a game all season, including even last week's "playing for nothing" west coast trip. Nothing like staying up for a 4:30 am tip off against the Lakers. Normally I might have to give myself a 9, but giving myself extra point for...devotion? insanity? for something, anyway...
Ive already missed 1 game this season, and I live a few hours behind Toronto... Meaning my games usually end at 6:30-10:30 at most!
Devotion man, you deserve a round of applause.
The Baltic Beast is unstoppable!
As I said, we need a better definition of what it means to be a fan. I hate this team as it is, but I love the team. Does that make sense? Matt, I think you're a 10 on franchise and a 2 on team. I put myself as 10 and 7, but if by 7 it means this actual team as in the 15 players that make up this team, then I'm probably at a 3.
your pal,
ebrian
Oliver Miller was the man. Even though he was slow, out of shape and not very talented, he was my favourite Rap big man until Bosh. Another oldies throw-back I loved was Walt Williams. "The Wizard" rocked the high socks and drilled the treys!! In fact, I still love the Wizard. Mo Pete is my all-time fav though and great value for a late pick.
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I voted 9.
I've watched the Raptors since they came into the league and watch nearly every game (when my wife drags me out I'm on the phone constantly, checking scores and boxscore stats). From the time I was a kid I enjoyed being the GM/coach in sports video games as much or more as playing them, so I'm sure I've always known the team's roster, draft prospects, cap situation, rumors, etc... far better than is healthy to. lol
The only reason I didn't give myself a 10 is because despite how passionate a fan I am, I don't think of the Raptors as "my" team and don't refer to the franchise as "we" or "us". I don't let the team take an emotional toll on me because, at the end of the day, it's still just a sport and I'm still just an outside observer. Though if BC would like to add another assistant GM...
Perhaps a better way to evaluate your fandom is ask yourself how angry you get.
For example, when the Raptors blow a 4th quarter lead and lose the game -- even a casual fan would be disappointed.
Here's a few examples -- ask yourself whether it makes you angry. If it doesn't, then perhaps you're not as big a fan of the team as you thought.
JV rides the pine for an entire 4th quarter with only 3 fouls and he's had a good game otherwise. Angry? Y or N
When Alan Anderson plays the entire game whilst shooting 1 for 14. Angry? Y or N
When someone says Bargnani had a good game because he scored 24 points on 24 shots with 0 rebounds. Angry? Y or N
When someone says DeRozan deserved that contract. Angry? Y or N
When Ed Davis has another big game for Memphis. Angry? Y or N
When we blow a 4th quarter lead. Angry? Y or N
When someone says "Ben Uzoh". Angry? Y or N
Casey benches a red-hot player and subs him for an ice-cold player. Angry? Y or N
You find a blog or a forum post defending Andrea Bargnani? Angry? Y or N
When you see the team's payroll. Angry? Y or N
When Colangelo gets an extension. Angry? Y or N
Vince Carter visit. Angry? Y or N
If you answered Y to most of these, you're a big fan. If you didn't, then you're not.
your pal,
ebrian
+ 2 GMT in Netherlands? Or they have European time installed?Wow...I'm the only dick arrogant enough to give myself a 10?
Seriously though, going with Joey Hesketh's last line....I'm currently living 5-6 hours ahead of Toronto time (in the Netherlands)...I'm not sure I've missed a game all season, including even last week's "playing for nothing" west coast trip. Nothing like staying up for a 4:30 am tip off against the Lakers. Normally I might have to give myself a 9, but giving myself extra point for...devotion? insanity? for something, anyway...
#tradeBargnani #freeRaptorfans
I couldn't disagree more. For the record, I only had 5 "Y" answers.
2 about Bargnani - I'm expecting him to be moved in the offseason and, as a past Bargnani supporter, I am totally fine (or even happy) with that. If you actually get angry over those two Bargnani-related events, I think you're making it personal. He's 1 of 15 players on a team in a team sport, who's playing time and role is determined by the coaching staff, after being drafted where he was and paid what he is because of the GM.
I am happy to see Davis playing well and would have preferred him to be kept, but I'm happy with Gay and understand that you need to giveup talent to get talent.
Uzoh - are you supposed to be mad at the mention of his name over costing us better draft positioning, or mad that he wasn't re-signed? Uzoh is nothing more than a footnote in the history of the Raptors.
Payroll - nothing is finite and payroll can easily be changed, so angry today could be happy tomorrow. Anger only comes from what payroll is used for or what it prevents the team from doing. Again, not sure how you could get angry over a number at a point in time.
Carter - should we be angry because he was traded? angry how he left? angry at fans for booing? Again, the sport is a business and I find it mind-boggling how so many Raptors fans can still have such emotion invested in an ex-Raptor, who never achieved any success greater than what he achieved in Toronto.
I suppose this just illustrates the fact that 'fan' is so subjective, especially when trying to determine degrees of 'fandom'.
Last edited by CalgaryRapsFan; Mon Mar 11th, 2013 at 02:18 PM.
lol, imo, if you answer Y to most of these, you have an anger management problem, take a sport you don't make any $ at too seriously, and take your understanding of what is involved in managing/coaching an NBA team too seriously.
Know basketball, know fun. No basketball, no fun.
I really meant it more as a joke post, but if NONE of them make you angry, you don't care as much as you think you do. I don't have anger management issues.
Does anyone follow the Leafs? There's gotta be a similar list, make one up and ask me. I'm sure I'll answer N to all of them. I'm not a big fan, although I will watch almost any game that is on television and I'll be disappointed if they lose the game.
By contrast, I'd give myself a 10 for Raptors franchise and 3 for Leafs franchise. 0 for Blue Jays. All 3 I'll watch a game if it's on TV and I'll be disappointed if we lose.
Last edited by ebrian; Mon Mar 11th, 2013 at 02:33 PM.
your pal,
ebrian
I'm about 5'10".
I'd argue that those people just disagree with you. Being a fan of a team and having opinions about specific aspects of that team (ie: players, transactions, etc..) are two totally different things.
In all seriously i'm about a 7. Regardless of what deals we do or how our players play, I still cheer for them. Haven't watched as many games as I'd like to this season due to work, but I try to catch up by watching replays and reading summaries. I make an effort to keep myself up to date on the team even when playoffs are out of the picture and we're playing d leaguers.
Last edited by Pong; Mon Mar 11th, 2013 at 02:43 PM.
Yeah, none of that makes me "angry" at all. Frustrated: sometimes. Disappointed: often. Some of it I wouldn't even think twice about (Ben Uzoh, anything Ed Davis does with his career post-Toronto, individual salaries or team payroll, Vince Carter...).
Angry? A worthless reaction, given the context. If this stuff really does make you "angry", maybe you don't have anger management issues, but you definitely take the Raptors too seriously.
Definition of Statistics: The science of producing unreliable facts from reliable figures.
Seems like my edit never made it but it was meant as a joke post.
It was meant for someone like Matt, who voted himself as a 2 when clearly, he's a huge fan.
ie: putting more focus on how much you care to see this team do well, versus whether or not you love the current roster.
Last edited by ebrian; Mon Mar 11th, 2013 at 02:56 PM.
your pal,
ebrian
I would say last year i was a 9, but moved to a 10 this year with my purchase of season tickets.
Die hard, never miss a game.
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I'm an 8. Watch every game I can. I know the roster but not much in the way of history. I'm new, just started watching this season. Still trying to figure out not so much Dwane Casey, but what some of those other coaches do? It seems a little too collabratory now. I like all the changes they've made to date. I hope Andrea recovers soon from his elbow injury --anxious to see if the injury/boo birds/new players/youth push him to play with a little more passion and rebound more.
I am defiantly a 10. i havent missed a game in 7 years, I watch them no matter what I am doing, I can name almost any trade the raptors have made and who was swapped in the trade, every 14,15th roster spot over the years. I no, everything there is to no about the Toronto Raptors. Win or lose im there supporting the raptors. And by the way im only 17, so that show how much of a die hard fan I am. When ever we lose, i am in a bad mood the next day.
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Last edited by RaptorFanatic01; Mon Mar 11th, 2013 at 03:39 PM.
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It's +1 GMT (they use CET here)....It's usually 6 hours. But because North America observes different daylight savings dates, right now (and for a short period in the fall) it's only 5 hours...that started just yesterday. Too bad that west coast trip wasn't this week...
Using the same logic as the others who pegged themselves as a 9. That accurately sums up my love of the franchise/team. Wish I had the time to be a 10.
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