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    Default Raptors Expected To Pursue Carl Landry

    The Toronto Raptors are expected to pursue Carl Landry this offseason if he opts out of his contract with the Golden State Warriors, according to a source.

    The Raptors will seek a veteran power forward this summer.

    Amir Johnson has had a breakout season for Toronto at the power forward position and are also looking for a resolution to the Andrea Bargnani situation.

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    I would love a PF rotation of Amir and Landry. I have always been a big fan of Landry and wanted the Raps to pursue him earlier.

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    I've been pretty much saying this for weeks....Trade market aside, Landry will likely be target #1 at PF if he opts out. He won't be as sought as the bigger names, and the MLE would still be a payraise to him.

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    I am down for Carl Landry. Hes a brute with a box game thats what we need. I wonder if we have anything that GSW would want though... They love 3s so maybe they will bite on Bargnani lol.

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    Quote Rapstor4Life wrote: View Post
    I am down for Carl Landry. Hes a brute with a box game thats what we need. I wonder if we have anything that GSW would want though... They love 3s so maybe they will bite on Bargnani lol.
    The point is to sign him if he opts out. I very much doubt he's a trade candidate.

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    Im not sure what i should think about this.
    I just looked at Landry's game logs and he's pretty much like Amir.
    If they do pursue him, does it mean theyre sticking with Amir as a starter? Yikes.

    I was hoping they go after either Boozer or David West.

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    Quote TheGloveinRapsUniform wrote: View Post
    Im not sure what i should think about this.
    I just looked at Landry's game logs and he's pretty much like Amir.
    If they do pursue him, does it mean theyre sticking with Amir as a starter? Yikes.

    I was hoping they go after either Boozer or David West.
    And I think the point is that Landry will be a FA target.....as in someone they can sign without a trade. Boozer, West...anybody that would make more than the mid-level is not an option to sign. I'm sure management will try to acquire a better PF if possible through a trade, but if that fails, Landry is a solid option.

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    And I think the point is that Landry will be a FA target.....as in someone they can sign without a trade. Boozer, West...anybody that would make more than the mid-level is not an option to sign. I'm sure management will try to acquire a better PF if possible through a trade, but if that fails, Landry is a solid option.
    Oh I see. MLE is 3-5mil? So if they get Landry, theyd probably try and trade Amir?

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    And I think the point is that Landry will be a FA target.....as in someone they can sign without a trade. Boozer, West...anybody that would make more than the mid-level is not an option to sign. I'm sure management will try to acquire a better PF if possible through a trade, but if that fails, Landry is a solid option.
    Bargnani sign and trade could be an option. GSW have been rumoured to have interest in the past.
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Bargnani sign and trade could be an option. GSW have been rumoured to have interest in the past.
    The cost of such a deal would probably be taking back Biedrins/Jefferson....GSW seems to be very tax-fearing. I think that will be the biggest factor in whether they would do a sign and trade...doubt they care too much about getting something back if it would kill their cap, and so will only do so if it improves their situation.

    And Landry has a player option....so while a sign and trade is a possibility, it is not an option Toronto or Landry would need to pursue unless he wants more than the MLE, which he isn't worth. I would think just offer him a 2 year deal for 10 million or something.
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    Bargnani sign and trade could be an option. GSW have been rumoured to have interest in the past.
    I'm not sure they can do a sign-and-trade with Landry. My understanding is that because he signed there as a free agent last offseason, they won't even have early bird rights to him unless he picks up his option and stays for another year. Without any sort of bird rights, they can't go over the cap to sign him, even in a sign-and-trade scenario. A team can't use their MLE or mini-MLE to sign a player that they intend to move in a sign-and-trade. And they're well over the cap now with no chance of getting under it unless Biedrins and and Jefferson don't pick up their options. So unless I'm missing something (and it's totally possible I am), I don't see how GSW can sign-and-trade him.

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    Quote octothorp wrote: View Post
    I'm not sure they can do a sign-and-trade with Landry. My understanding is that because he signed there as a free agent last offseason, they won't even have early bird rights to him unless he picks up his option and stays for another year. Without any sort of bird rights, they can't go over the cap to sign him, even in a sign-and-trade scenario. A team can't use their MLE or mini-MLE to sign a player that they intend to move in a sign-and-trade. And they're well over the cap now with no chance of getting under it unless Biedrins and and Jefferson don't pick up their options. So unless I'm missing something (and it's totally possible I am), I don't see how GSW can sign-and-trade him.
    Kind of right.... definitely more right than I was originally... cause I was not right.... at all.

    I believe he can be signed and traded but it would be for no more than 120% of his previous salary ($4.8M starting per year).

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    i think it is a great idea pursuing carl landry hence he opts out this year...he is a consistant player when given minutes...he is entering his prime years..and he can help a lot coming off the bench...has a great feel for the game..great underrated defense...smart player...doesnt foul a lot but plays aggressive...he can learn a lot from amir but amir can learn a lot from carl landry...great back to the basket player and has improved dramatically on his shot...he is a big..a little undersized but moves really well...he doesnt have a robotic essence to his game...very quick for his size...great player..been a fan...dont know why a team hasnt kept him...he has journey'd a bit..i welcome him on my team..however i dont think this will improve our team more then now...maybe a couple more games...but it will be good...since the departure of ed davis...instead of playing amir heavy minutes and landry at the pf...in other words..landry..u r more then reliable and welcome to toronto...hope u opt out

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    Quote TheGloveinRapsUniform wrote: View Post
    Im not sure what i should think about this.
    I just looked at Landry's game logs and he's pretty much like Amir.
    If they do pursue him, does it mean theyre sticking with Amir as a starter? Yikes.

    I was hoping they go after either Boozer or David West.
    How the heck do you see us landing David West?
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    Quote ebrian wrote: View Post
    How the heck do you see us landing David West?
    S&T would be the only viable option, similar to Millsap.

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    Quote CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
    S&T would be the only viable option, similar to Millsap.
    I don't see how Indiana would want to trade David West anyways.

    I personally like Carl Landry on this team. ONLY as a back-up option though if a sign-&-trade/trade straight up doesn't work. Good, not great offensive player inside, banger, rebounder. Not a shot blocker, and undersized though. Question; is he really worth $3-$5 million? I would think so.

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    Quote ebrian wrote: View Post
    How the heck do you see us landing David West?
    I dont know, but i asked the same question before Gay came to Toronto.

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    Quote TheGloveinRapsUniform wrote: View Post
    Im not sure what i should think about this.
    I just looked at Landry's game logs and he's pretty much like Amir.
    If they do pursue him, does it mean theyre sticking with Amir as a starter? Yikes.

    I was hoping they go after either Boozer or David West.
    Why anyone would consider trading Amir or suggest he can't cut it is beyond me. Anyone who watches every game knows what the deal is.

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    Quote Sprechen wrote: View Post
    Why anyone would consider trading Amir or suggest he can't cut it is beyond me. Anyone who watches every game knows what the deal is.
    I'm not in favor of trading Amir, i'd want the Raptors to get a starting PF and let Amir back him up.

    But if the Raps are indeed pursuing Landry, then they possibly might trade Amir since Landry makes him redundant, specially with his contract.

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    Quote TheGloveinRapsUniform wrote: View Post
    I'm not in favor of trading Amir, i'd want the Raptors to get a starting PF and let Amir back him up.

    But if the Raps are indeed pursuing Landry, then they possibly might trade Amir since Landry makes him redundant, specially with his contract.
    Amir and Landry are not similar players, at all....they both fit in the same place in a pecking order, but have different skill sets. If you can't get an upgraded starter, not bad to have 2 borderline starters with different abilities. Their contracts would still add up to less than what Boozer will be making, to take one example. And the production would only be slightly less, with Landry actually scoring from pretty similar spots as Boozer.

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