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    Quote RaptorsFan4Life wrote: View Post
    Here comes another hate on Bargs thread. Honestly the way Bargs was being used was pretty bad, especially since Gay got here. I think Bargs is fine (not #1 overall but just look at that top 10, most are rotting on the bench right now (or out of the NBA)). People need to get over it. He had a bad start to the season then got hurt, then Gay got here and the team got flipped on it's head. I think Bargs can still help this franchise if he's used properly. The couple last games that he played this season (when he started and got minutes) before he got hurt is the proof of that. He was grabbing 5+ rebounds and shooting fairly well and trying harder.

    Either way, with Gays contract (and it seems like he's going to be getting an extension) the Raptors can't do crap. He has yet to prove he can be a #1 that can lead the team and has been shooting piss poor for the most part this season (both on the Raptors and Grizz). We are pretty much stuck in the same situation where we'll be 8th or 7th at best and will get knocked out before we can get anywhere.
    ... and getting paid $10M.

    I think most people here are over Bargs.

    I think you are the one who brought him up in this thread.

    I think the Raptors will have more success with Rudy than Bargnani leading the charge - which is not setting a very high bar.
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    LA was my pick over bargs that year. In a way I would have preferred Adam Morrison or Roy. At this point they would be either undeniably a bust or sadly injured. But either way we would have shifted gears and moved on. The team is better with him not on the court and not a constant distraction. Those 0 for games when he wasn't starting and then ill magically once put into the starting lineup he starts scoring was really sickeningly obvious. Fucking Primo Donna.

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    Quote Pill wrote: View Post
    LA was my pick over bargs that year. In a way I would have preferred Adam Morrison or Roy.
    Not too many people were raising their eyebrows when the Raps chose Bargs back then. A lot of people, and the media of course, were quick to sing his praises, yap about his potential and compare him with Dirk -even I was a bit excited. What a bust and what a crap draft (shame what happened to Roy and even Morrison). Still, LA was my pick over Bargs too and I remember Bosh even lobbying for LA (anyone remember that?) saying they were buddies and played with each other etc etc... I remember being on the fence between LA and Bargs but when I heard Bosh wanting LA and saying he was a sure thing, that was the tipping point for me. Of course Colangelo had his own plans and wanted to be the genius who chose the next Dirk.
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    The mistake wasn't drafting bargs... it was pretty much everything else afterwards.
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    Get it out of your minds people, drafting Bargs was the best move in that draft. His handling and straight Lethargy is what ruined him.

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    Quote Rapstor4Life wrote: View Post
    Get it out of your minds people, drafting Bargs was the best move in that draft. His handling and straight Lethargy is what ruined him.
    It's hard to say it was the "best move" when Aldridge, another realistic first overall pick, has had a much better career to date.

    Acknowledging that hindsight is 20/20, drafting Aldridge would've been the best move.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Acknowledging that hindsight is 20/20, drafting Aldridge would've been the best move.
    If you are using hindsight, wouldn't you rather have had Rondo? Rondo is better than LA imo. I seem to remember something back then that Aldridge didn't want to come to Toronto, I don't have anything to back it up yet (haven't started looking) but I seem to remember that for some reason.

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    Quote Axel wrote: View Post
    If you are using hindsight, wouldn't you rather have had Rondo? Rondo is better than LA imo. I seem to remember something back then that Aldridge didn't want to come to Toronto, I don't have anything to back it up yet (haven't started looking) but I seem to remember that for some reason.
    This is just my opinion, but I don't believe Rondo would've turned into the player he is today, if drafted by any other team.

    Also, I wanted to restrict the "best move" to realistic ones at the time of the 2006 draft. Rondo wasn't even considered a lottery pick back then.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    This is just my opinion, but I don't believe Rondo would've turned into the player he is today, if drafted by any other team.

    Also, I wanted to restrict the "best move" to realistic ones at the time of the 2006 draft. Rondo wasn't even considered a lottery pick back then.
    I disagree about Rondo in the sense that he is super competitive and super intelligent. He may not have reached the level of accolades without playing with Pierce, Allen and KG and probably would have lower assists totals, but he would still be a one-man fast break, an excellent push the tempo point guard and a very solid defender. He might be under-appreciated if he went to another team, but I think he'd still be the better player.

    I completely agree that Rondo wasn't a realistic option for #1 that year. No one thought that a point guard who couldn't shoot could become a legit point guard, let alone the levels that Rondo has reached.

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    Quote ezz_bee wrote: View Post
    The mistake wasn't drafting bargs... it was pretty much everything else afterwards.
    There it is.
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