BC had a huge hand in helping to build the Heat too. The JO/Mario trade gave them the cap space to sign at least one of the big 3, and the Raps pick that Riley scammed from BC in the trade was used as the pacifier in the Bosh sign-and-trade.
And I don't think it's ruined the NBA, but it definitely diminishes my respect for those 3 guys as pure competitors. By scheming and teaming up, they eliminated about 80-90% of the competition and made the journey to the championship much easier for themselves. The journey is part of what defines the character of greatness. Like Jordan said, he couldn't envision any scenario where he would have called Larry Bird or Magic Johnson and said something like, 'hey guys let's join forces and beat up on the other guys'.
my disgust with miami actually doesn't have as much to do with the despicable way the 3 amigos formed, and more to do with the franchise and pat riley..
they were determined to scam their way into a winning team... this predates delonte's unofficial step son and the ostrich deciding they sucked too much on their own to be team players
mind you, you'd have to be on team "tanking is bullshit" to agree with me..
but does anybody remember the 07-08 season? it never seems to get mentioned anymore... but that season was the purest form of tanking ever to exist.
BS injuries... trotting out a starting lineup comprised of glorified d-leaguers night after night.. they didn't even try to pretend that legitimate basketball was going to be anywhere near the arena
all for more ping pong balls because they were desperate for derrick rose..
fuck that team
michael beasley's only true value in this world is as a paragon of karma.
Westbrook and wade would be a terrible back court though. They are both pretty much the same player except westbrook screams after every dunk.
"They're going to have to rename the whole conference after us: Toronto Raptors 2014-2015 Northern Conference Champions" ~ ezzbee Dec. 2014
"I guess I got a little carried away there" ~ ezzbee Apr. 2015
"We only have one rule on this team. What is that rule? E.L.E. That's right's, E.L.E, and what does E.L.E. stand for? EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY. Right there up on the wall, because this isn't just a basketball team, this is a lifestyle. ~ Jackie Moon
Lol. I dunno, can you have too much of a good thing? K-Love was the obvious pick in hindsight. Even Brook Lopez was available.
I don't think you fully understood my point in comparing them both though, because I said Wade was a play-maker. He was extremely good at finding players in their stride, and making spare parts look like organs.
As much as he's a hot head, he is immature, and still learning to be an NBA professional, he has all the tools to be just as complete the player Wade was, he could become a better player overall. Westbrook is already a terrific rebounder for the guard position, his assist numbers have improved and increased every season, and the scoring is rising, along with better selection and efficiency.
There can't be anyone serious in terms of questioning Westbrook's potential, he can be something truly great.
No one in the league has hang time like D Rose, No ONE!
They were still great players and not that old wen they joined the celts, lebron, wade, and bosh joined forces becuase none of them could beat the celtics by them selves
I'm pretty sure any GM that could get Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Durant, and Dwight Howard on a team, they would do so. Regardless, you try to improve your team.
The Heat could not beat the Celtics by relying on Wade + company, and the Cavs could not beat the Celtics by relying on LeBron + company. So? They joined to make a team to get over that hump.
It's how basketball, or any sport happens in general. You acquire or attain as many talented players as you can, to win a championship. You think a team with one superstar + spare parts or role players is going to win a ring?
Look at the decade's past champions. They've ALL had two or more all-star/superstar players capable of carrying a team. Detroit and Dallas are exceptions (Detroit had a starting 5 of no superstars, but some all-stars, and Dallas had Dirk, but played with Kidd who was at the end of his prime, and Chandler who was arguably the best defensive centre in the league).
you guys are getting way off topic. let's get this back to the original point of this thread... how the Erie Bayhawks ruined the NBA.
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