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    Quote heinz57 wrote: View Post
    in all seriousness... there really is no doubt, despite all the hurt butts he left in Toronto (mine included). VC at his peak is so far ahead of anybody else who could potentially be on the list.. the reality is a top 10 greatest raptors of all time list should go:

    1. VC
    2. TBD
    3. TBD
    4. TBD
    5. TBD
    6. TBD
    7. TBD
    8. TBD
    9. TBD
    10. Jorge Garbajosa

    the lack of GREATNESS in our franchise is overwhelming
    I would definitely include Bosh, Parker, and Calderon in that list. I wasn't following the team until BC arrived to be honest with you.

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    i have no idea who the other two would be... Zan Tabak, and........... ?
    Alexander Radovic (spelling)
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    I would definitely include Bosh, Parker, and Calderon in that list. I wasn't following the team until BC arrived to be honest with you.
    i stress the word GREAT.

    Jose is good. REALLY REALLY good. but the best that "good" can be, still isn't GREAT.

    I left the eight "To Be Determined" spots between VC and Garbs because Garbs was the best player on that Atlantic division championship team BY FAR... but it was a championship in horribly weak division... without him, the lesser talented players on the team weren't even able to pretend to be competitive

    the optimist in me says we'll eventually have a championship in a competitive division some day, and those spots are reserved for them.

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    1. Jerome Williams
    2. Charles Oakley
    3. Jose Calderon
    4. Jorge Garbajosa
    5. Mugsy Bogues
    6. Alvin Williams
    7. Reggie Evans
    8. Popeye Jones
    9. Keon Clark
    10. Oliver Miller and Matt Bonner (tie)
    I limited my list only to players that actually wanted to be in Toronto.

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    Here are the greats you excluded:

    Oakley should be in there, I say 3 seasons is clearly enough to establish yourself. After all, when we whine about a lack of tough defense we often site the 'Oakley' years.

    Keon Clark should always get a honourable mention, just because.

    Anthony Parker, because no one knew who he was, and then we did, and we're all better people for having him spent time here.

    Chris Childs - A.K.A. - Little Mugger - He makes my 'not so' honourable mention. If he isn't out there stabbing someone, well, I guess that's a good thing for whomever.

    GarJo, not Garbo, Garjo - 2 games people, that was it. Wow.

    Doug Christie might be a little higher in my list. If someone says Tracey Murray, I get punchy.

    Voshon Leonard and Milt Palacio are being ignored on this thread....that's a bummer haha.
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    1. Vince Carter
    2. Chris Bosh
    3. Damon Stoudamire
    4. Jose Calderon
    5. Antonio Davis
    6. Morris Peterson
    7. Doug Christie
    8. Andrea Bargnani
    9. Alvin Williams
    10. DeMar DeRozan

    Thoughts?

    Note: I didn't include McGrady, Oakley and Camby because they weren't around very long.

    Also, I think Rudy Gay and Jonas Valanciunas will on the top 5 list one day.
    Thats the worst top 10 list i've ever seen. No JYD!?
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    Donyell Marshall? didn't he set the 3pt record with the raps
    "You never heard of DeMar just google him, the defense don't know what to do wit him"

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    Thats the worst top 10 list i've ever seen. No JYD!?

    JYD's a role player. And no he's not better than any of the 10 guys that i listed.
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    When I think "great Raptors" I think not only skilled players on the court, but impactful from a franchise perspective too.

    I really think finding 10 legit options is a stretch for such a young franchise. Here are the guys I would include on any "great Raptors" list:

    1. Damon Stoudamire - Mighty Mouse introduced the basketball world to the Raptors and Toronto
    2. Vince Carter - Vinsanity brought Raptors basketball to a whole new level
    3. Chris Bosh - CB4 ended the Raptors' post-VC dark ages
    4. Morris Peterson - Mr. Raptor had the heart, hustle and skill, should have been the first 'lifer'


    I think there's a significant drop to whoever would qualify for #5 on that list. Alvin Williams, Jose Calderon, Doug Christie and JYD are the guys who jump out as being in the next tier, but I don't think any of them deserve to be mentioned with those 4.

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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post
    JYD's a role player. And no he's not better than any of the 10 guys that i listed.
    When i think greatest i think guys who played their hearts out and gave it 200% everynight. You have freaking andrea bargnani in your top 10. What has he accomplished? absolutely nothing
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    "You never heard of DeMar just google him, the defense don't know what to do wit him"

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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    When i think greatest i think guys who played their hearts out and gave it 200% everynight. You have freaking andrea bargnani in your top 10. What has he accomplished? absolutely nothing
    Well if that's your criteria then i guess Quincy Acy will end up as one of the all time Raptors great. Because the guy gives his 200% effort every night.

    This list is all about the most talented players that ever played for this franchise. Do you really think JYD is a better player than Bargnani? get off the Haterade.
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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post
    Well if that's your criteria then i guess Quincy Acy will end up as one of the all time Raptors great. Because the guy gives his 200% effort every night.

    This list is all about the most talented players that ever played for this franchise. Do you really think JYD is a better player than Bargnani? get off the Haterade.
    Yea he is. Cause he contributed to a winning team. And Quincy Acy? the dude doesn't even play
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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post
    Well if that's your criteria then i guess Quincy Acy will end up as one of the all time Raptors great. Because the guy gives his 200% effort every night.

    This list is all about the most talented players that ever played for this franchise. Do you really think JYD is a better player than Bargnani? get off the Haterade.
    And players who actually want to play for Toronto. I don't give a shit about talent if they aren't going to give it their all and play for the team. Your list is flawed
    Last edited by NoPropsneeded; Wed Mar 27th, 2013 at 06:42 PM.
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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    Yea he is. Cause he contributed to a winning team. And Quincy Acy? the dude doesn't even play
    Yeah he needs to thank Vince Carter for that. If Andrea Bargnani was in that era he would've contributed too, maybe more.
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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post
    Yeah he needs to thank Vince Carter for that. If Andrea Bargnani was in that era he would've contributed too, maybe more.
    lol no he wouldn't. his soft ass would be glued to the bench behind Antonio Davis and Oakley. He'd probably make the team even worse thus decreasing our chances of being a winning team.
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    This still isn't as fun as talking about scrubs....I was able to list 10 Cs of various scrubbiness and still leave off guys like Patrick O'Bryant, Solomon Alabi, Alexis Ajinca, as someone else noted, Aleks Radojevic, and countless others...Really, it gets hard to keep thinking of scrub bigs the Raps have had, because there are just too many. (That's why I appreciate having a prospect like JV so much)

    And in the biggest mistake of all time, I can't believe I had that list, and that Yogi Stewart wasn't on it...my bad.

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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post
    JYD's a role player. And no he's not better than any of the 10 guys that i listed.
    Perhaps you should have called this list the "Most talented Raptors" of all-time, because that seems to be the way you're taking it. When talking about "Greatness" relative to a franchise, you have to take into consideration the cultural/fan aspect, as well as the on-court production/contributions.

    We don't have anyone who can be considered Great from the NBA level other than Vince Carter.

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    Here are my Top 10 Greatest Raptors - which doesn't have to mean great players, but great for this franchise.

    #1 - Vince Carter - no explanation needed
    #2 - Chris Bosh - no explanation needed
    #3 - Morris Peterson - 542 games played, Franchise all-time leader; 371 consecutive games played - Raps Iron-Man; all-time 3 pt leader with 801
    #4 - Damon Stoudamire - by winning the rookie of the year award (avg 19 pts, 9 assists), he gave instant credibility to the new franchise, holds numerous assists records still
    #5 - Jose Calderon - 525 games played, second all-time
    #6 - Antonio Davis - highest rebounding season in franchise (787) and 2nd all-time in RPG with 9.2 (Bosh leads with 9.4)
    #7 - Tracy McGrady - dunk contest in 2000 helped elevate franchise, phenominal scorer, biggest "what if"
    #8 - Charles Oakley - one of 3 players to grab over 700 boards in a season for the Raps, toughness changed the culture, still referred to as what the team is missing
    #9 - Doug Christie - most steals in 1 half with 8, all-time leader in franchise steals 734 (Mo Pete is 2nd with 552)
    #10 - Demar Derozan - perhaps a stretch as he hasn't proven as much yet, but he is a hard worker who is getting better.

    Honourable Mentions: Anthony Parker, Mugsey Bogues, Keon Clark, JYD, Amir Johnson, Jorge Garbajosa

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    Quote heinz57 wrote: View Post
    i have no idea who the other two would be... Zan Tabak, and........... ?
    It has to be Rick Brunson.
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