apologize for screwing up the quote,
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So I guess I have no hard evidence, but again, when is there any except for when deals are basically done (Michael Jordan vetoes notwithstanding)? I think the kind of leak it is is about as close as you get, especially since it was weeks after the inital Boozer-Bargs rumours. It's not as explicit as BC saying he offered Jose and Ed for Gay...but I think that was a very poor PR move by a normally sly BC, and actually true to form since it was him basically already catering to Gay's ego and trying to make him happy, like "look, look, I'm trying to get you".
Last edited by white men can't jump; Fri Apr 5th, 2013 at 03:28 PM.
His moves since then, although not mistake free, have been mostly good but have not been sufficient to make the Raps. a serious contender. His record as Raps. GM is not an accurate indication of his ability. Even though I'm optimistic by nature, I believe Raps. have a realistic chance of being good next year. Their present performance may not be an indication of that but staying the course for at least another year will pay dividends. If given another year, Colangelo can and will get the job done.
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*I don't think Chicago confirmed it because they are smarter than that. They were/are a playoff team that couldn't afford to make a player unhappy, and screw up chemistry going into the playoffs. Like most well-run teams, they probably keep everything as publicly quiet as they can. BC I think didn't confirm it because he didn't like and didn't want to back himself into a public corner. Look how pissed fans are at him now, how much worse would it be if he came out publicly and said "it's on the table, but we're looking for a better deal"?
Also, I'm not complaining about BC other than saying it was a poor PR move with the Ed/Jose stuff. I don't give a shit about the trade either way and I was someone who strongly supported avoiding Boozer like the plague at the deadline. I was just trying to find the story to show that the trade wasn't something that Raps fans dreamed up to complain about. The first rumours came out a month before that, and that one was like an update, probably just saying where the talks stood last. I firmly believe that BC cut off talks because Chicago wouldn't move from the Boozer + Nate option, which heavily favors Chicago since the primary motives for this deal are financial and coming from their end. I actually think it's one of the smarter things he's done this season.
Why do you think the deal would be much more favorable than this? If they could've gotten a better deal for Boozer, I'm sure they would have.
Last edited by white men can't jump; Sat Apr 6th, 2013 at 10:24 AM.
Ed has not been playing like crap. He's getting a lot of playing time now and they run a different system where he isn't relied on as a primary offensive weapon, which is what ended up happening here.
Reasons why Toronto might say no:
1) Chicago is still going to try and move Boozer this summer and will likely be more desperate as:
a) they just paid tax for first time ever,
b) luxury tax is getting jacked next season,
c) they just used a year towards repeater tax.
2) Toronto avoids a year towards repeater tax as it looks like they will definitely be a tax team in 2013-14 and most likely 2014-15 before having nearly a clean slate in 2015-16 right in time to avoid the repeater tax.
3) Assuming cap level and luxury tax goes up next season and Kleiza is amnestied, the trade will be able to be made in a straight one for one deal.
4) My hope is desperation leads to including a first round pick.
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If that Boozer deal is still on the table BC should take it after looking at what else is available Bargs is still relatively young (27?) I can see LA saying he could be part of the future lets move Gasol for him, Raps have Gasol for the season and he walks in 2014 we have cap sapce available after what should be a playoff berth season.
There is a small market for Bargnani and beggars cant be choosers the Raps already play bette with him in a suit so this is addition by subtraction, still its BCs job to move that tumor for something the franchise can use immediately.
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I heard the rumours and I think there was some legitimacy to them. That said, we don't know what pieces were really going to be involved. Maybe Coangelo wanted a pick in order to take the deal and chicago said no. I can also see both team's hedging their bets to the off season.
I'm also not sure I'd want boozer on this team, maybe you could convince Demar to come off the bench and start Fields instead? otherwise there just aren't enough shots to go around.
I think there's enough talent on that team to win a playoff series, and/or get home court in the first round. However, I'm not convinced that there's enough mental toughness, or chemistry to get that done.
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