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    Default Lowry, is really bad

    As far as point guards go Lowry is terrible. I think he is the cause of a lot of problems with this team on the floor. He doesn't seem to know how to create shots for people. I like telfair but people have to be paying attention cause he doesn't give the obvious pass. Offseason is going to be good for these guys cause the PLAYERS are making a lot of mistakes.

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    Lowry has actually been playing pretty good lately hes balancing his playstyle.

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    Lowry is terrible??? I feel like you don't watch basketball.

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    What. Lowry has been fantastic, he's been playing like the Lowry of old. Not exactly the Lowry of old, but like him. It was clear against Minnesota tonight.

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    past 4-5 games his assist numbers are up and he's been playing well. He's been landing some 3's and stretching the floor, penetrating with his speed. He's doing his job.

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    Quote drunkmunky wrote: View Post
    past 4-5 games his assist numbers are up and he's been playing well. He's been landing some 3's and stretching the floor, penetrating with his speed. He's doing his job.
    Key statement. With Gay, Derozan, and now Valanciunas who has developed into a consistent option on the floor, Lowry becomes that last option - even with Amir on floor - and has to be a guy that runs plays to give these guys the ball. He's also doing his job like you said in terms of spacing the floor, and running the break on any given opportunity.

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    The other problem for Lowry, given the starting lineup, is that Valanciunas, Johnson and DeRozan are unable to create for themselves. Those players are too reliant on a facilitating PG, which puts even more pressure on Lowry to get them the ball at the right time at the right place. Gay is the only other guy who can initiate the offense, but he constantly draws two and sometimes even three defenders; he could easily average 4-6 assists per game if he played similar to LBJ, using his skill to penetrate, draw defenders and find open guys (assuming there are shooters to knock down the open looks).

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    This, is a comma splice.

    Lowry is doing ok.
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    I`m not against acquiring another PG but Lowry is OK. Trying to change his game is a mistake and I hope they find a way to develop chemistry with Lowry playing his natural game. The fact that he`s been moved from team to team has not done his confidence much good. Being sure that he is the the teams PG game after game can only make him better.
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    the problem with lowry is casey

    raptors seem to be virtually incapable of running his offense plays anymore. time and time again they start the play and it just gets shutdown and leads to nowhere

    you can tell when theyre not running a casey play; fastbreaks, lowry penetrating the paint, etc. hope they keep doing more of that and less gay iso play

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    Quote grindhouse wrote: View Post
    As far as point guards go Lowry is terrible. I think he is the cause of a lot of problems with this team on the floor. He doesn't seem to know how to create shots for people. I like telfair but people have to be paying attention cause he doesn't give the obvious pass. Offseason is going to be good for these guys cause the PLAYERS are making a lot of mistakes.
    If you base this statement strictly off the 2 on 1 where Lowry threw the horrible lob pass to Gay, then yes.

    But one play is hardly reasonable.

    I don't think he is playing really bad but he is also not playing really good either.

    He is playing like an ex-con on probation.... unable to do what he wants and always looking over his shoulder.
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post

    He is playing like an ex-con on probation.... unable to do what he wants and always looking over his shoulder.
    Superb example.
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    lowry can't create for other people? who the hell as the ball in their hands most of the time? that would be demar derozan and rudy gay.

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    DeMar and Rudy can create for themselves JV and Amir cant.

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    Quote CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
    The other problem for Lowry, given the starting lineup, is that Valanciunas, Johnson and DeRozan are unable to create for themselves. Those players are too reliant on a facilitating PG, which puts even more pressure on Lowry to get them the ball at the right time at the right place. Gay is the only other guy who can initiate the offense, but he constantly draws two and sometimes even three defenders; he could easily average 4-6 assists per game if he played similar to LBJ, using his skill to penetrate, draw defenders and find open guys (assuming there are shooters to knock down the open looks).
    Im not sure how you can say demar cant create for himself when so many people complain thats all he can do is iso... And JV someone has to pass him the ball in the post but he seems to be creating to me?

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    Im not sure how you can say demar cant create for himself when so many people complain thats all he can do is iso... And JV someone has to pass him the ball in the post but he seems to be creating to me?
    That is the irony with DD.

    Since the Gay trade he has been put in many ISO situations but it does not appear he is doing anything. I'd love to see a breakdown of his ISO stats..... anyone?

    Where DD is most effective is running the Rip Hamilton style game....and that takes a lot of help from teammates.
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    If you base this statement strictly off the 2 on 1 where Lowry threw the horrible lob pass to Gay, then yes.

    But one play is hardly reasonable.

    I don't think he is playing really bad but he is also not playing really good either.

    He is playing like an ex-con on probation.... unable to do what he wants and always looking over his shoulder.
    Well said. There has to be a happy medium between getting teammates involved and attacking and shooting ....Casey has probably tied his hands too much.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    That is the irony with DD.

    Since the Gay trade he has been put in many ISO situations but it does not appear he is doing anything. I'd love to see a breakdown of his ISO stats..... anyone?

    Where DD is most effective is running the Rip Hamilton style game....and that takes a lot of help from teammates.
    Don't forget the back to the basket. He's definitely good at working from the low to mid ranged area, not from the perimeter.

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    Lowry is playing fine and if anything needs the ball in his hands more often. Demar and Rudy who both quality scorers are not good facilitators yet have the ball in there hands more then the best play maker on the floor.

    Like Matt mention Demar is best on the move coming off screens like Rip or like Reuben said low to mid range (working on smaller guards). Why have him facing up outside the 3 point arc or going 1 on 1 taking the dreadful long 2's. Same things apply for Rudy accept he has a much better ability to face up the Demar. Although both players attempted 23 shots last night (shot over 50%) they both only had 1 trip to the free throw line. Add to that 4 combined assists and you can see that it's simply one on one basketball being played. This is fine when their hot like last night but off shooting nights or better defenders and it's obvious why our offense has dry spells. I'm all for DD and Gay taking the shots but not a fan of them setting the play up leave that to Lowry.

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    Quote Rapstor4Life wrote: View Post
    DeMar and Rudy can create for themselves JV and Amir cant.
    Rudy yes, DeMar can't. DeMar is at his best on the move coming off screens, catch and shoot. Post up. 1 on 1 is not his game.
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