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Thread: ESPN: Early Ride on the Coaching Carousel

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    I don't like Lawrence Frank. He's a little weasel. He lucked into a good job in NJ and hasn't really distinguished himself since.

    OUt of those three, he'd be my last choice. Byron Scott would be my first choice.

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    Ugh. I knew these threads would pop up... the only one I'd be interested in is Byron Scott.
    But not over Casey. Wouldn't change anything.

    Lawrence Frank was only good because he had a great team.

    Doug Collins is only good for 2 seasons .. he's notorious for turning a team around quickly - and then losing his players.
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    Quote isaacthompson wrote: View Post
    I heard he was interested in the Rutgers position..
    It's been taken by someone else already

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    Ugh. I knew these threads would pop up... the only one I'd be interested in is Byron Scott.
    But not over Casey. Wouldn't change anything.

    Lawrence Frank was only good because he had a great team.

    Doug Collins is only good for 2 seasons .. he's notorious for turning a team around quickly - and then losing his players.
    Suggestion: Merge it with the ESPN coaching carousel one.
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    Eddie Jordan got the Rutgers job already.

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    Quote Sig wrote: View Post
    It's been taken by someone else already
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    Eddie Jordan got the Rutgers job already.
    My bad, don't really keep up with college basketball that much.
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    I forgive you.

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    I dont

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    Man, anyone see that the Cavs may be looking to bring Brown back? Seems like they're pretty being run pretty strangely now, realigning more with their pre-LeBron history, I guess.

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    I'm starting to think, and it might be a mistake that Casey is fired.

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    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...ing-mike-brown Not Raps related but Cavs want Brown back jeez talk about retreading.

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    A rundown on the names of coaches likely to be bandied about this spring and summer via a Cleveland paper discussing Cavs head coach opening:

    The Cavs might have some competition for (Mike) Brown’s services. If the Atlanta Hawks fail to get out of the first round of the playoffs — they aren’t favored to beat Indiana — they could make a coaching move with Larry Drew. Brown would be the Hawks’ first choice, a source said, and be reunited with Hawks general manager Danny Ferry.

    Brown compiled a 272-138 record with the Cavs (.663) in five seasons with the Cavs.

    A source close to former Miami and Orlando coach Stan Van Gundy said Van Gundy has no interest in coaching any of the three current openings in the NBA: in Philadelphia, Detroit or Cleveland.

    Ex-Portland and Seattle coach Nate McMillan might have some interest in the Cavs' job, but if the Sacramento Kings move to Seattle, he'd be earmarked for that position.

    Former Milwaukee coach Scott Skiles is available. He's hard-nosed and a defensive coach, but he is known to wear down everyone around him with his relentless style.

    There are several up-and-coming assistant coaches who could draw interest from Cavs general manager Chris Grant. One of them could be Denver assistant coach Melvin Hunt, who spent several years on Brown's staff in Cleveland.

    Hunt also worked under Phil Jackson with the Los Angeles Lakers. He is currently Nuggets coach George Karl's lead assistant and is well-respected around the league. Hunt has a good background in coaching defense and in developing young talent. He works very closely with the Nuggets' young stable of big men.

    Four other assistants that could get interviews are Miami's David Fizdale, Indiana's Brian Shaw, Golden State's Mike Malone and Philadelphia's Michael Curry. Curry, who was Detroit's head coach for one season, might be in line for the 76ers' job vacated by the recently departed Doug Collins. Shaw was a finalist for the Cavs' job in 2010.

    Grant isn't expected to talk to any college coaches for the opening.

    http://www.news-herald.com/articles/...mode=fullstory
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    Interesting article on experienced versus non-experienced NBA coaches. I know there has been some debate in coaching threads about getting a 'proven/experienced' winner.

    .....the numbers don’t back up the assertion that previous NBA head coaches are appreciably more likely to succeed.

    The Observer studied the last 10 years of NBA coaching hires, focusing on circumstances similar to the Bobcats: Coaches who took over teams with a sub-.500 record that missed the playoffs. That narrowed a group of 88 hires down to a list of 44.

    The Observer then examined those 44 cases to see whether the coach improved the situation. Which teams had winning seasons? Which reached the playoffs? Which won a round? By those measures, coaches who hadn’t already run an NBA team did better than those who had.

    Of the 24 men who’d previously coached NBA teams, 10 (42 percent) succeeded appreciable. Of the 20 never-before head coaches, 11 (55 percent) succeeded.

    That shouldn’t come as a big surprise. Of the eight head coaches who got their teams to the second round of this season’s playoffs, six had never coached another NBA team before getting his current job.

    Four of those -- Chicago’s Tom Thibodeau, Indiana’s Frank Vogel, Oklahoma City’s Scott Brooks or Miami’s Erik Spoelstra -- were fairly obscure assistants, but they inherited talented teams on the rise. In these times when superstars are clustering in places like Miami, Los Angeles and New York, it’s harder than ever for a young coach to have a great roster.

    Fans understandably equate familiarity with qualification. It’s why former Pittsburgh Steelers coach Bill Cowher living in the Triangle seems to haunt Carolina Panthers discussions. But think of all the NBA “name coaches’’ – guys who pushed other teams deep in the playoffs -- who have failed of late:

    Mike D’Antoni (New York Knicks), Avery Johnson (New Jersey/Brooklyn Nets), Byron Scott (Cleveland Cavaliers) and Flip Saunders (Washington Wizards) all lost those jobs without winning a single playoff game. Johnson’s, Scott’s and Saunders’ teams never reached the post-season, while D’Antoni’s best Knicks team was swept by the Boston Celtics.

    “Failling’’ -- falling short of a winnign record or not making a playoff run -- is actually quite common, based on Observer research: Nearly two-thirds of those hired since 2004 -- 54 of 88 -- ended in losing records for the coach. Thirty-four of the 88 hires never resulted in a playoff appearance and seven more reached the playoffs but never won a first-round game.


    http://www.charlotteobserver.com/201...s-want-an.html
    I don't have the patience to make these charts legible. I recommend clicking the link to see the table.

    Stars to unemployed: Four 'name’ coaches who lost their jobs.

    Name Team Record before he took over Resume
    Mike D’Antoni Knicks 23-59 under Isiah Thomas One playoff appearance in 3 Ĺ seasons. Knicks were swept by the Boston Celtics.
    Avery Johnson    Nets 12-70 under Lawrence Frank / Kiki Vandeweghe  Went 60-116, never reaching playoffs.
    Flip Saunders Wizards 19-63 under Eddie Jordan / Ed Tapscott Went 51-130, never were in playoff contention
    Byron Scott Cavaliers    61-20 under Mike Brown Went 64-166. Scott inherited depleted team after LeBron James’ departure for Miami.

    No-names to stars: Four ex-assistants shining in their first stints as NBA head coaches

    Name Team he took over Record before he took over Resume
    Scott Brooks Thunder   1-12 under P.J. Carlesimo Went 50-32 in first full season as coach, reached NBA Finals in 2012.

    Tom Thibodeau   Bulls 41-41 under Vinny Del Negro Went 62-20 his first season, won two division titles in first three seasons.

    Erik Spoelstra Heat 15-67 under Pat Riley Went 43-29 first season. His team won 2012 championship.
    Frank Vogel Pacers 17-27 under Jim O’Brien Went 28-18 as interim coach. Pacers have reached 2nd round of playoffs past 2 seasons

    Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/201...#storylink=cpy
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