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    Before I start I want to make it clear that I am one of DD biggest surporters. I usually wouldn't even think about trading DD but, the losing and lack of playoffs over the past 5 years is getting to me. I do believe that DD and Rudy can play with eachother. Give them training camp and they could make it work. I think I can't ignore is that how much of a good fit EG would be next to RG. If you haven't heard EG has been pretty much trying to get himself out of New Orleans.

    Gordon sat at the end of the bench, but appeared engaged during timeouts. But after the game, Gordon appeared to be puzzled about getting benched. He also made no mention of the shouting match. He finished with seven points on two-of-three shooting, playing just more than 17 minutes. It was the Hornets’ eighth consecutive loss on the road. New Orleans Times-Picayune
    Gordon sat at the end of the bench, but appeared engaged during timeouts. But after the game, Gordon appeared to be puzzled about getting benched. He also made no mention of the shouting match. He finished with seven points on two-of-three shooting, playing just more than 17 minutes. It was the Hornets’ eighth consecutive loss on the road. New Orleans Times-Picayune
    Hornets coach Monty Williams and point guard Eric Gordon got into a screaming match during a timeout with 8:37 left in the third quarter. Millsap had just scored on a putback to put Utah ahead 55-47 and New Orleans called a timeout. Williams was visibly agitated, yelling in Gordon's direction. He had to be held back by assistant coach Randy Ayers after Gordon hollered back at him, and when the team went to the sidelines, Williams continued screaming at Gordon. NBA.com
    A majority of fans in New Orleans have not forgotten the comments Gordon made last summer after he became a restricted free agent and agreed to a four-year, $58 million offer sheet with the Suns, which the Hornets matched even though Gordon said his "heart was in Phoenix." The Hornets were unable to pull off a trade involving Gordon before the February trade deadline, but the franchise is still likely to remain open to trading him after this season ends, according to sources Saturday. New Orleans Times-Picayune
    Gordon’s situation is a little different – he is not happy in New Orleans and hasn’t kept that a big secret. The franchise matched his contract for two reasons – primarily, you don’t get ahead in the NBA letting star level players walk without compensation and secondarily there was a hope Gordon would come around to what the Hornets are building and buy in, especially with all the uncertainties now out of the way. HoopsWorld
    I'm not sure if I would want him here after all that. He seems like one of those players that if things dont go his way he wants out. His a legit scorer with serious range. His talent can't be ignore and the fact that his only one year older than DD. Stephen Brrotherson doesn't seem to agree.

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    would you trade Demar for Eric Gordon this summer?

    Stephen Brotherston
    Flat out NO. I am not into reclamation projects – unless I’m giving up next to nothing. Let someone else take the risk

    Read more at http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-chat-w...hVGUlFIZKLE.99
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    can a Demar derozan for Eric gordon trade work? of course fillers and draft picks may be needed.

    Stephen Brotherston
    It could work, you wouldn’t even have to add all that much in salary – the bigger issue is – do you want a player who is trying to force his way out of a team or keep the guy who wants to be on your team? EC hasn’t exactly looked great lately and he’s owed almost $45m over the next 3 years. Not sure I’d even touch the deal, certainly not adding in draft picks.

    Read more at http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-chat-w...hVGUlFIZKLE.99
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    I don't want Eric Gordon but not because I love Demar. A healthy Eric Gordon is all-star material while Demar will never, ever sniff that opportunity. Yes, he's a good, hard-working kid. His work ethic alone merits props from me. Unfortunately, there's more to the NBA than being a nice, hardworking guy. Stephen Brotherson is a lone voice in all of this. I respect his opinion but having said that, this doesn't change my stance the Demar should be traded this offseason for something else.
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    trade DeMar for a PF and start Ross. problem solved if we trade him cause honestly Im a DeRozan fan but he is the biggest trade asset we have and its about making the Raptors better.

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    Quote Rapstor4Life wrote: View Post
    trade DeMar for a PF and start Ross. problem solved if we trade him cause honestly Im a DeRozan fan but he is the biggest trade asset we have and its about making the Raptors better.
    Ross has not proven that he can be a starter in this league.

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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    Ross has not proven that he can be a starter in this league.
    He hasn't even proven he can contribute solidly off the bench...then again that's mostly Casey's fault with the inconsistent minutes.
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    i don't like Eric Gordon's attitude, injury history, or the fact that he can't defend PGs or SGs. Not the kind of player I want to build my team around in any way. Yes he does have very solid skills, but I'd stay away from him.

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    i don't like Eric Gordon's attitude, injury history, or the fact that he can't defend PGs or SGs. Not the kind of player I want to build my team around in any way. Yes he does have very solid skills, but I'd stay away from him.
    +1. I'd take Demar over Gordon solely because Demar never misses games and Gordon barely plays

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    Quote Raptor_11 wrote: View Post
    +1. I'd take Demar over Gordon solely because Demar never misses games and Gordon barely plays
    I agree but I wasn't comparing them one on one. I just think that EG would be a better fit. I like DeRonzan better. I'm not a fan of undersized guards especially one that's always injured. DD doesn't get enough credit for how durable he is. You can always book him 70+ games a years.

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    if they took demar and kleiza for eg i would do it we have ross and fields and anderson to throw in and i think eg dont want to play there

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    From Brotherson:

    do you want a player who is trying to force his way out of a team or keep the guy who wants to be on your team?
    Wonder if we can find similar statements when Lowry was traded for.......

    One thing that may be overlooked with Gordon is why he is unhappy with NOH. Management used the new CBA RFA pay scale and rules to a serious advantage (as many teams have done) when dealing with Gordon's recent contract. They didn't make Gordon an offer, waited until another team did and he's signed the offer sheet, then matched. The result was a less lucrative contract than he would have demanded from NOH. Not a bad idea as far as I'm concerned (I think he is still paid too much because of his injury history), but Gordon was upset NOH didn't offer him a deal, felt Phoenix actually wanted him, asked NOH not to match, but NOH matched anyways. Now they are looking to trade him, while benching him and not explaining why - so its not really a suprise he isn't happy with that team.


    Anyways, I agree with BoS. Gordon is a very good player, much much better than Demar, but a ridiculous and unnecessary health risk. Demar coming off the bench at 10 mil > Paying Eric Gordon to rehab a knee at 15 mil

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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    Before I start I want to make it clear that I am one of DD biggest surporters. I usually wouldn't even think about trading DD but, the losing and lack of playoffs over the past 5 years is getting to me. I do believe that DD and Rudy can play with eachother. Give them training camp and they could make it work. I think I can't ignore is that how much of a good fit EG would be next to RG. If you haven't heard EG has been pretty much trying to get himself out of New Orleans.


    I'm not sure if I would want him here after all that. He seems like one of those players that if things dont go his way he wants out. His a legit scorer with serious range. His talent can't be ignore and the fact that his only one year older than DD. Stephen Brrotherson doesn't seem to agree.





    It's somthing to thing to think about it. How y'all feel?

    If the Hornets want Gordon out, and the whole situation is poisoned, then this is a great opportunity to unload Bargs.

    I vote a straight up Andrea for Eric. It works on the trade machine. Who cares if we get stacked on SG's. Deal with that later. Gordon for AB would give me warm and tinglies. Gordon for Demar....meh. I think Demar actually likes Toronto. Might as well keep him, he's not overly expensive. f

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    i don't like Eric Gordon's attitude, injury history, or the fact that he can't defend PGs or SGs. Not the kind of player I want to build my team around in any way. Yes he does have very solid skills, but I'd stay away from him.
    Agree. Plus, Hobbitt cant knock down threes. If they were to replace Demar, i'd rather have a guy who can shoot threes and can knock down perimeter shots at least 45-50%.

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    Quote TheGloveinRapsUniform wrote: View Post
    Agree. Plus, Hobbitt cant knock down threes. If they were to replace Demar, i'd rather have a guy who can shoot threes and can knock down perimeter shots at least 45-50%.
    Screw the scoring/shooting, I'd want a guy who's D is more advanced than Demar's, and who's at least as professional as he is, like an Arron Afflalo (even if Afflalo shot worse than he actually does). That to me would be the best kind of straight up trade for a SG.

    Otherwise, save Demar for a bigger package to get a better player, regardless of position.
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    I love Gordon's game, but his proneness to injury is a massive concern. He's missed approx. 140 games over the past 4 years.
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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    Screw the scoring/shooting, I'd want a guy who's D is more advanced than Demar's, and who's at least as professional as he is, like an Arron Afflalo (even if Afflalo shot worse than he actually does). That to me would be the best kind of straight up trade for a SG.

    Otherwise, save Demar for a bigger package to get a better player, regardless of position.
    Oh yeah that too. I assumed D was already a given.

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    Screw the scoring/shooting, I'd want a guy who's D is more advanced than Demar's, and who's at least as professional as he is, like an Arron Afflalo (even if Afflalo shot worse than he actually does). That to me would be the best kind of straight up trade for a SG.

    Otherwise, save Demar for a bigger package to get a better player, regardless of position.
    Afflalo is actually considered overpaid, like Gay. 10th or 9th on the list i think.

    If Fields fixes his shooting, i think a Lowry, Fields, Gay, (Solid PF), JV would be quite a starting five.

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    Quote raptor_11 wrote: View Post
    +1. I'd take demar over gordon solely because demar never misses games and gordon barely plays
    stay away from eric "glassman" gordon!

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    Interesting trade. It would give us another borderline All Star to go with Gay, Lowry and Bargs when is healthy. Not that I would do it but risks need to be taken in order to improve the team.

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    Quote TheGloveinRapsUniform wrote: View Post
    Agree. Plus, Hobbitt cant knock down threes. If they were to replace Demar, i'd rather have a guy who can shoot threes and can knock down perimeter shots at least 45-50%.
    They're are only a handful of players that shoot the three 45-50%. They're usually specialist not starters material. Before all his injury problems he shot 38% his rookie year. Just the fact DD never misses a game make him more worth his contract than EG.

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    I dont get why people would want to trade DeMar, i think DeMar and Amir should be untouchable. Why because they work hard and keep improving and WANT to be here win or loose and will give this organization the time to figure it out.

    2nd Point, i get a sense that a lot of people want to trade demar because he's not an ALL-Star, so what ????? since when does a team need a team of 5 all-stars to be competitive ?(ask the Lakers how thats working for them) NEVER. some teams their best player is a SG, some teams its a Center, others its a PG, why exactly does Demar have to be an all star ? because Vince was a SG, i grew up on the Vince Carter Kool-Aid and to this day wish we take him back so he can retire here, but the team doesn't have to follow the mold. IF we had drafted drummond, we could have a had a TWIN tower type of team change our identity, like San antonio of old or Lakers after getting pau. Lakers haven't been showtime in long long time, why do we need to be the raptors of old. That is the raptors biggest issue we have no identity.

    I say leave the only position that works well (not great) and focus on the bigger problems, like rotation PG and Big men,and move on from there, if you keep trading your best assests in hope of fixing a former all-star all you end up doing is standing still +1 -1= 0. Like trading Amir for a proven vet PF, you still have AAron gray first big off the bench so what did you acomplish exactly ?

    We should have a amassed more picks like cleaveland because we are litterally 2 picks away from being something serious, but since we dont have this year, are we gonna be something before Rudy Gay and Kyle lowry get extented for an insane amount or walk away to greener pastures.

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