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  • #16
    white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    Screw the scoring/shooting, I'd want a guy who's D is more advanced than Demar's, and who's at least as professional as he is, like an Arron Afflalo (even if Afflalo shot worse than he actually does). That to me would be the best kind of straight up trade for a SG.

    Otherwise, save Demar for a bigger package to get a better player, regardless of position.
    Afflalo is actually considered overpaid, like Gay. 10th or 9th on the list i think.

    If Fields fixes his shooting, i think a Lowry, Fields, Gay, (Solid PF), JV would be quite a starting five.

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    • #17
      raptor_11 wrote: View Post
      +1. I'd take demar over gordon solely because demar never misses games and gordon barely plays
      stay away from eric "glassman" gordon!

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      • #18
        Interesting trade. It would give us another borderline All Star to go with Gay, Lowry and Bargs when is healthy. Not that I would do it but risks need to be taken in order to improve the team.

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        • #19
          TheGloveinRapsUniform wrote: View Post
          Agree. Plus, Hobbitt cant knock down threes. If they were to replace Demar, i'd rather have a guy who can shoot threes and can knock down perimeter shots at least 45-50%.
          They're are only a handful of players that shoot the three 45-50%. They're usually specialist not starters material. Before all his injury problems he shot 38% his rookie year. Just the fact DD never misses a game make him more worth his contract than EG.
          @Chr1st1anL

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          • #20
            I dont get why people would want to trade DeMar, i think DeMar and Amir should be untouchable. Why because they work hard and keep improving and WANT to be here win or loose and will give this organization the time to figure it out.

            2nd Point, i get a sense that a lot of people want to trade demar because he's not an ALL-Star, so what ????? since when does a team need a team of 5 all-stars to be competitive ?(ask the Lakers how thats working for them) NEVER. some teams their best player is a SG, some teams its a Center, others its a PG, why exactly does Demar have to be an all star ? because Vince was a SG, i grew up on the Vince Carter Kool-Aid and to this day wish we take him back so he can retire here, but the team doesn't have to follow the mold. IF we had drafted drummond, we could have a had a TWIN tower type of team change our identity, like San antonio of old or Lakers after getting pau. Lakers haven't been showtime in long long time, why do we need to be the raptors of old. That is the raptors biggest issue we have no identity.

            I say leave the only position that works well (not great) and focus on the bigger problems, like rotation PG and Big men,and move on from there, if you keep trading your best assests in hope of fixing a former all-star all you end up doing is standing still +1 -1= 0. Like trading Amir for a proven vet PF, you still have AAron gray first big off the bench so what did you acomplish exactly ?

            We should have a amassed more picks like cleaveland because we are litterally 2 picks away from being something serious, but since we dont have this year, are we gonna be something before Rudy Gay and Kyle lowry get extented for an insane amount or walk away to greener pastures.

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            • #21
              Watching NOH vs LAL. I know it's the lakers but no one can keep EG infront of them. When he gets pass the guard he finds a way to finish amount the trees(Dwight and Pau). Has 15 at half and hasn't made a 3 yet.
              @Chr1st1anL

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              • #22
                You all know what i think of DeRozan but NO WAY in hell i'd trade him for Gordon. Why? yeah Gordon is the better player of the 2 but the guy can't stay healthy and seems to have an attitude problem. DeRozan on the other hand hasn't missed a game in what, 2 years?
                Mamba Mentality

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                • #23
                  Without even talking about his attitude and injury woes, Eric Gordon is overpaid and overrated. He's a good offensive player, and that's about it and he's only played for really bad teams. In fact, Gordon has never been on a team that has won 40% of its games.

                  I think we should trade DeRozan but Gordon is not the answer.
                  your pal,
                  ebrian

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                  • #24
                    Yeah, but IIIIFFFF Gordon can stay healthy that's a pretty sick combination of Lowry, Gordon and Gay on the floor, with our two headed monster of JV and Amir taking alley oop's and easy put backs with all the pressure K-Lo, EG & RG are putting on perimeter defenders.

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                    • #25
                      It's sick in terms of the talent on the floor but that's still 3 guys who need the ball in their hands to be effective. I would not mind at all if we "dumbed down" the SG position by trading DeRozan for a legit starting PF and letting Ross/Landry sort things out. There's just too many ball dominant guys for us to operate as a functional unit.
                      your pal,
                      ebrian

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                      • #26
                        ebrian wrote: View Post
                        It's sick in terms of the talent on the floor but that's still 3 guys who need the ball in their hands to be effective. I would not mind at all if we "dumbed down" the SG position by trading DeRozan for a legit starting PF and letting Ross/Landry sort things out. There's just too many ball dominant guys for us to operate as a functional unit.
                        I see what you're saying, but don't agree completely. I think Lowry has been showing everyone (sometimes to the fans' dismay) that he isn't as ball dominant as orginally thought. He is doing what a lot of us were hoping he would do once Calderon was traded and that is taking a step back offensively in order to give DeMar and Gay more touches.

                        By trading DeRozan for Gordon you are getting another player whom can create for himself whereas DeMar doesn't have those kind of abilities. He can post up smaller guards, but as we've seen all too often when the defense tightens up he starts chucking long two's or defers to Lowry or Gay. Gordon is a legit scoring threat game in and game out no matter the defender. He's putting up nearly 17 pts a game in as unmotivated a situation in New Orleans as there is. Perhaps he needs a fresh start.

                        I'm on the fence on this trade to tell you the truth. If Gordon can stay healthy it's a no brainer to me.

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                        • #27
                          The problem is this isn't Lowry's game. We traded a first round pick for Lowry and people can say all they want about the weak draft class but by principle that's still a first round pick. It's a clear indication that the team sees Lowry as our future point guard and as such I think we need to use him in a way that highlights his abilities.
                          your pal,
                          ebrian

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                          • #28
                            Yeah, but now you're off topic. You were saying that we have too many ball dominant players on our team, and to that I say Lowry has changed his game to fit the teams needs which is the sign of a professional imo.

                            I think he's still evolving his game to fit the teams needs. He's already learnt how to take his foot off the gas and to allow others to play their game. Now he needs to learn how to take over games when it's required.

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                            • #29
                              Sorry to jump off topic. I just think that Lowry can be utilized in a different way and we should at least entertain that thought. Lowry *can* distribute, but that hasn't resulted in wins (his other way of playing didn't result in wins either, but at least he was playing to his strengths).

                              Getting a guy like Gordon absolutely forces Lowry to play like.. Calderon. He's not Calderon.

                              Anyway switching back to Gordon -- how's his defense? He's obviously undersized, but how's his D? Lowry's undersized too.
                              your pal,
                              ebrian

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                              • #30
                                We need a player who can score on the low block with his back to the basket and draw double teams, opening the lane for our plethora of cutters. Moving DD for Gordon doesn't solve anything and the injury risk is too big.
                                Heir, Prince of Cambridge

                                If you see KeonClark in the wasteland, please share your food and water with him.

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