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    Quote RaptorReuben wrote: View Post
    Loved it. I think this is one of the closest teams we've had in terms of chemistry in awhile.
    If these two work their butt's off in the off season. We could be looking at the best wing duo in the league next season
    "You never heard of DeMar just google him, the defense don't know what to do wit him"

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    Quote Rapstor4Life wrote: View Post
    DeMar is fucking beast shooting 52 percent for 2 months leave it a lone people and just say dam this kid can play, and hes a part of the future.
    Show us some proof. He has not been shooting 52% the last two months
    "You never heard of DeMar just google him, the defense don't know what to do wit him"

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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    Show us some proof. He has not been shooting 52% the last two months
    Do you watch the games Leo and And Matt went over it in the last game against the bulls... I'll try and find it in reading.

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    http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3978/demar-derozan Hes been in the 50 ranges for all of April and ended March at 49-50% shooting months before that he was maintaining the high 40 avg 44-47% DeMar is playing better ball. Gotta respect the kid.

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    Fair enough
    "You never heard of DeMar just google him, the defense don't know what to do wit him"

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    He still needs to slash more
    "You never heard of DeMar just google him, the defense don't know what to do wit him"

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    Quote drunkmunky wrote: View Post
    http://www.nba.com/raptors/video/201...ERVIEW-2444444


    These guys are a bunch of jokers...
    I am glad they have so much fun playing on a sub-.500 team and playing one more game before vacation while the best in the league gear up for the point of the season.
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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    Show us some proof. He has not been shooting 52% the last two months
    He has been shooting 52% for the last 7 games.

    Sadly when you click ignore you still see the persons quotes when someone else replies to them.
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    The fun factor is most important. If they start hating each other and not getting along... playing the blame game... This team is screwed.

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    Quote drunkmunky wrote: View Post
    The fun factor is most important. If they start hating each other and not getting along... playing the blame game... This team is screwed.
    totally agree. i don't see the problem with just enjoying a great win, even if its 'meaningless'. its just small moments like these that make us temporarily forget how bad the team is and how fun it still is to watch them (sometimes!)

    even if the lakers were much higher in the standings, i can't imagine watching more of their games and seeing a bunch of miserable old dudes looking like they don't even know each other.
    Last edited by iblastoff; Mon Apr 15th, 2013 at 11:22 AM.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    He has been shooting 52% for the last 7 games.

    Sadly when you click ignore you still see the persons quotes when someone else replies to them.
    Lol wow

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    Quote Rapstor4Life wrote: View Post
    http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3978/demar-derozan Hes been in the 50 ranges for all of April and ended March at 49-50% shooting months before that he was maintaining the high 40 avg 44-47% DeMar is playing better ball. Gotta respect the kid.
    ... He's shooting 52% in 7 games in April. He shot 41% in 15 games in March. in He has not shot better than 45% in any other month. Where did you get 44-47% from? More like 41-45%.

    Although... the one thing about Demar's game that seems heavily underrated is how much he gets to the line. As many terrible shots as he takes and non-fouls on drives, hoopdata has him as 14th best in the league in FTA/FGA, among swingmen playing 25mpg+. He's still taking way too many long twos though; he actually leads swingmen playing 25mpg+ in shots from 16-23ft. How ridiculous is that. Imagine he went to the basket more.

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    Quote TRX wrote: View Post
    ... He's shooting 52% in 7 games in April. He shot 41% in 15 games in March. in He has not shot better than 45% in any other month. Where did you get 44-47% from? More like 41-45%.

    Although... the one thing about Demar's game that seems heavily underrated is how much he gets to the line. As many terrible shots as he takes and non-fouls on drives, hoopdata has him as 14th best in the league in FTA/FGA, among swingmen playing 25mpg+. He's still taking way too many long twos though; he actually leads swingmen playing 25mpg+ in shots from 16-23ft. How ridiculous is that. Imagine he went to the basket more.
    from his last interview he said that he understands people are on him about the long 2s, but also that he feels increasingly confident in taking them as well. so i don't know if its just going to keep going like this or if they'll fall more consistently. i know that everyone complains about long 2's but they're also difficult to block. i don't mind the long 2's if demar can add corner 3s with more consistency like he did in the nets game.

    all i have in my head right now is amir johnson becoming the corner 3 sharpshooter. this would be the most hilarious twist for next year.

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    Did you know that the very best in the league at long twos shoot right around 50%? This season, Bosh is shooting 52%, Chris Paul is shooting 51%, Nash is shooting 50% and Nowitzki is shooting 49%. Did you know that if you were an elite, elite long two shooter like these four (and shot, say, 50.5%), that's the points-per-possession equivalent of 1.01 ppp? That would be a good shot for only the ten worst offensive teams in the NBA.

    Even if you were an elite, elite shooter from 16-23 feet, you are basically hurting your team every time you shoot it as anything but a last resort. That's how bad that shot is. There is a reason elite defences are okay with conceding that shot.
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    Quote TRX wrote: View Post
    Did you know that the very best in the league at long twos shoot right around 50%? This season, Bosh is shooting 52%, Chris Paul is shooting 51%, Nash is shooting 50% and Nowitzki is shooting 49%. Did you know that if you were an elite, elite long two shooter like these four (and shot, say, 50.5%), that's the points-per-possession equivalent of 1.01 ppp? That would be a good shot for only the ten worst offensive teams in the NBA.

    Even if you were an elite, elite shooter from 16-23 feet, you are basically hurting your team every time you shoot it as anything but a last resort. That's how bad that shot is. There is a reason elite defences are okay with conceding that shot.
    DeMar is suffering from "everyone else is wrong and I am correct."

    I don't care how confident you are in a long two, it is a sh!tty shot to have as your go-to offensive move. It is lazy and the epitome of "I'm going to get mine. To hell with the rest!"
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    In general I would prefer the long two as a "oh shit our offense broke down and we only have four seconds to get a shot up". Even then my preference is for a mildly contested 3 pointer as Amir and JV are better with tapping out the long rebounds.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    DeMar is suffering from "everyone else is wrong and I am correct."

    I don't care how confident you are in a long two, it is a sh!tty shot to have as your go-to offensive move. It is lazy and the epitome of "I'm going to get mine. To hell with the rest!"
    This is just ignorant.

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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    If these two work their butt's off in the off season. We could be looking at the best wing duo in the league next season
    Second! LeBron and Wade! C'mon NoProps! Haha.

    Anyways, I do agree that Gay/Derozan as a wing duo would have major potential. If they play and work off each other like they did against Brooklyn - One is the first option, attracts the defense, the other sneaks behind the "aggro", and starts contributing himself - than this would be a very hard team to stop.

    I will say, one needs to sit in the low block - preferably Derozan (because Gay is a better perimeter shooter career wise) - and Gay works off of it on the strong side. My opinion though.

    Derozan needs to continue to slash first, mid-ranged second, and improve the handle. Gay needs to get healthier, improve the shot selection, and get some legs under him. Also needs to get stronger and tighten up the handle (initially already good ball-handler, just very loose when handling).

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    I don't know, I think Demar and lots of Raps who have been here over the last 3-4 years suffered from Triano's presence. Triano didn't develop any of their (Bargnani, Demar, Ed, Amir...) skills very well. He did help a bit with Bargs' and Demar's offense, but not much else. In 2 seasons of Casey, those same guys have developed much better all-around. As much as I hate on Casey for his in-game management and rotations, I do believe behind the scenes he knows how to improve young players. Some guys both have had:
    -Amir is a far better all-around player now, and basically only his J improved a bit with Triano.
    -Ed made huge improvements clearly doing what the coaches asked him to in the summer, but is the hardest to blame Triano for with his injury one summer and lockout the next.
    -THis is the first year Demar has made noticeable (even if statistically small) improvements in non-scoring areas.

    -JV made huge strides even within the season...Which was partly why I was mystified by his handling at times, especially after the injury. He had clearly spent the whole time getting ready and listening to everything the coaches were saying.

    He just needs to learn to have a bit more trust in his young guys in games, even if he doesn't want to play them in crunch time.

    *I never really had anythign against Triano, but now that I think of it, his time in Toronto was a complete failure.
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    got to respect it.

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