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    Quote CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
    How does that work?

    Bargnani's salary will be $10.75M, which means the Raps could take back up to $13.5375M [(10.75*1.25)+0.1], but Boozer will be making $15.3M. Given that the Raps will be far over the cap, don't they need to stay within the confines of the formula?
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    Thanks for the update Matt.

    I thought the "(outgoing salary * 1.25) + 100k" rule was in effect if the team was over the salary cap number though, as opposed to the luxury tax number (which is what your breakdown seems to imply).

    That's why I thought that even if the Raptors were to shed the salaries of Kleiza (via amnesty), Lucas (via declined team option) and Gray (via declined player option), and if the salary/luxury tax rates were to increase, the Raps still wouldn't be able to do a straight-up Bargnani/Boozer deal.
    Yes. Stricter rules (i.e. 125% + 100K) come in if the team is already in luxury or the new salary coming in places them in luxury tax.

    For non-taxpaying teams (again, they must be under the tax level after the trade), the salaries that can be acquired depend on the total salaries the team is trading away:

    Non-Taxpaying

    Teams Outgoing salary/ Maximum incoming salary
    $0 to $9.8 million/ 150% of the outgoing salary, plus $100,0001
    $9.8 million to $19.6 million/ The outgoing salary plus $5 million1
    $19.6 million and up/ 125% of the outgoing salary, plus $100,000

    Taxpaying teams can take back up to 125% of their outgoing salaries, plus $100,000, no matter how much salary the team is sending away. For example, a taxpaying team trading away $10 million in salaries can acquire one or more replacement players making up to $12.6 million.

    Taxpaying Teams

    Outgoing salary/ Maximum incoming salary
    Any/ 125% of the outgoing salary, plus $100,000
    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q82
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    Quote blackjitsu wrote: View Post
    Well this list IS from Bleacher Report so it should be taken with a grain of salt.

    Other than Landry I've seen none of these posted as rumors. On message boards they have been mentioned as the types of players the Raps should be looking at, but that's it. Of the list:

    SG/SF Mike Dunleavy Jr. - Don't think he's available (haven't heard rumors)
    SG J.J. Redick - Can't afford
    SF/PF Carl Landry - Intrigued
    PG Devin Harris - Would be nice (haven't heard rumors)
    PF/C Carlos Boozer - I doubt they can get him for Bargnani. Isn't really a fit for what the Raps need.
    C JaVale McGee****** - No. Cool guy, but no.
    PG/SG Jarrett Jack****** - Why? So he can be bitter that he doesn't start here?
    PF/C Luis Scola - Most fans wish for this guy but no rumors I've seen that the Raps have asked for him.
    I disagree re Boozer. He can defend, rebound and plays hard consistently....only draw backs are age and concerns re injury.

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    Quote psrs1 wrote: View Post
    I disagree re Boozer. He can defend, rebound and plays hard consistently....only draw backs are age and concerns re injury.
    He is utterly horrific on the defensive end, I don't know what you've been watching.
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    Quote isaacthompson wrote: View Post
    He is utterly horrific on the defensive end, I don't know what you've been watching.
    He's not an elite defender, but I think he's adequate. He did get a vote for the all defensive second team in 2012:
    http://www.nba.com/2012/news/05/23/n...012/index.html

    Other players receiving votes, with point totals (First Team votes in parentheses): Andre Iguodala, Philadelphia, 19 (4); Joakim Noah, Chicago, 14; Iman Shumpert, New York, 13 (4); Paul George, Indiana, 10 (2); Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City, 9 (2); Josh Smith, Atlanta, 8 (2); Dwyane Wade, Miami, 5 (1); Thabo Sefolosha, Oklahoma City, 5 (1); Grant Hill, Phoenix, 5 (1); Tim Duncan, San Antonio, 5 (1); Avery Bradley, Boston, 3 (1); Marc Gasol, Memphis, 3 (1); Metta World Peace, L.A. Lakers, 3; Shawn Marion, Dallas, 3; Joe Johnson, Atlanta, 2, (1); Mike Conley, Memphis, 2; Derrick Rose, Chicago, 1; Jrue Holiday, Philadelphia, 1; Carlos Boozer, Chicago, 1; Luc Mbah a Moute, Milwaukee, 1.

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    He's not an elite defender, but I think he's adequate. He did get a vote for the all defensive second team in 2012:
    http://www.nba.com/2012/news/05/23/n...012/index.html

    Other players receiving votes, with point totals (First Team votes in parentheses): Andre Iguodala, Philadelphia, 19 (4); Joakim Noah, Chicago, 14; Iman Shumpert, New York, 13 (4); Paul George, Indiana, 10 (2); Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City, 9 (2); Josh Smith, Atlanta, 8 (2); Dwyane Wade, Miami, 5 (1); Thabo Sefolosha, Oklahoma City, 5 (1); Grant Hill, Phoenix, 5 (1); Tim Duncan, San Antonio, 5 (1); Avery Bradley, Boston, 3 (1); Marc Gasol, Memphis, 3 (1); Metta World Peace, L.A. Lakers, 3; Shawn Marion, Dallas, 3; Joe Johnson, Atlanta, 2, (1); Mike Conley, Memphis, 2; Derrick Rose, Chicago, 1; Jrue Holiday, Philadelphia, 1; Carlos Boozer, Chicago, 1; Luc Mbah a Moute, Milwaukee, 1.
    There are jokers everywhere. In my memory Boozer was sitting quite often in the fourth quarter because Thibodeau didn't like his defense.

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    Quote Soft Euro wrote: View Post
    There are jokers everywhere. In my memory Boozer was sitting quite often in the fourth quarter because Thibodeau didn't like his defense.
    I don't think Boozer is a great defender, but I think he's adequate.. it's coaches that vote for the all-defensive teams. Perhaps it was a joke, but a lot of people take that seriously. It's possible it was Thibs that voted but I'd be surprised if coaches are allowed to vote for players on their own team.

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    Hes a good team defender, and thats what Chicago is all about especially with Noah down low beside him. The important part about Boozer is his playstyle he grabs those boards good at getting into position and is quite a bully, getting defensive boards is also a part of good defense so I think his positives outweigh his negatives.

    Say we land Boozer this changes the offensive options and it will be interesting to see how he plays alongside JV.

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    Quote Rapstor4Life wrote: View Post
    Hes a good team defender, and thats what Chicago is all about especially with Noah down low beside him. The important part about Boozer is his playstyle he grabs those boards good at getting into position and is quite a bully, getting defensive boards is also a part of good defense so I think his positives outweigh his negatives.

    Say we land Boozer this changes the offensive options and it will be interesting to see how he plays alongside JV.
    Yup.. he's a good teammate.. everyone seems to rave about him. He may not be good with help defense, but he can tire the offensive player out by using his butt to ward off rebounds. He's also been coached by a lot of excellent coaches in his career: Coach K in Duke, Sloan and now Thibs.. he'd be a great vet to have on the team..

    However saying all that, I'd rather have Gasol or Okafor since their contracts run shorter.

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    If Boozer's contract wasnt awful Chicago wouldnt be moving him, and is Taj Gibson hurt all season? Thib love him beside Noah and he will likely be given the starting reigns at the 4. Another reason to move Boozer I guess. Call me crazy but Bargnani coming off their bench may actually be something they really want.....Bulls play amazing enough Defense to handle Bargs's chucking.

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    Quote Rapstor4Life wrote: View Post
    If Boozer's contract wasnt awful Chicago wouldnt be moving him, and is Taj Gibson hurt all season? Thib love him beside Noah and he will likely be given the starting reigns at the 4. Another reason to move Boozer I guess. Call me crazy but Bargnani coming off their bench may actually be something they really want.....Bulls play amazing enough Defense to handle Bargs's chucking.
    They did okay with Belinelli who is an awful defender. I think Bargnani will actually do really well in Chicago. And if he doesn't we can all laugh as he would no longer be our problem

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Amir is greatly appreciated on this team.

    He can play 30 minutes coming off the bench just like he can starting.

    As was mentioned, the Raps bench sucks. He is a great benefit coming off it because he can play both PF and C plus he is a total class act, team player who plays balls out. Those guys are in short supply in starting lineups and pretty much non-existent coming off the bench.
    I think our bench needs a scorer more than an Amir johnson type player. And our starting rotation needs an Amir Johnson type player more than a scorer. Amir starts, Fields starts, and DeRozan and backup PF with scoring capability off the bench.

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    Set it guys, the starting 5 is JV, Amir, Gay, DeMar and Lowry. Except if we get another true starting caliber player I don't see why would it change.

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    Raptors need a 3pt shooter. A specialist.

    1. Kyle Korver
    2. JJ Redick
    3. Mike Dunleavy

    In that order.
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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post
    Raptors need a 3pt shooter. A specialist.

    1. Kyle Korver
    2. JJ Redick
    3. Mike Dunleavy

    In that order.

    i like redick more. i like the idea of scola the most. i think that a big that can play 4/5 and is a capable player is our biggest need and then a back up pg.

    would love to buy a pick for kabongo
    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/85...ents-2013-2014

    not seeing any ufa pg. that we could get. something nice for maynor would be nice. i think our off season is about getting rid of bargs and internal development
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    Quote Miekenstien wrote: View Post
    i like redick more. i like the idea of scola the most. i think that a big that can play 4/5 and is a capable player is our biggest need and then a back up pg.

    would love to buy a pick for kabongo
    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/85...ents-2013-2014

    not seeing any ufa pg. that we could get. something nice for maynor would be nice. i think our off season is about getting rid of bargs and internal development
    Agreed. Besides a shooter this team needs a VETERAN big that can play the 4/5. Brand and Scola first comes to mind.
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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post
    Agreed. Besides a shooter this team needs a VETERAN big that can play the 4/5. Brand and Scola first comes to mind.
    Good luck getting Scola. Apart from Dragic, he's just about the only hope they have down there in Phoenix.
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