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    Or is this just the Landry Fields signing of executives? (Hope getting one guy brings another, even though there's no good reason to have that expectation)

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    Quote tenforthewin wrote: View Post
    Phil Jackson would be awesome to have as GM of the Toronto Raptors or as head coach, if he's the GM, he will most likely hire either Sam Cassell or Brian Shaw, we would love to see a triangle offense type of style for this team.

    Jackson would make DeRozan instantly better, could be Heir Jordan or Heir Kobe as opposed to Heir VC.
    Rudy Gay ain't no Scottie Pippen but he can be better scorer
    Amir Johnson is no Horace Grant but he can be a better defender
    Kyle Lowry is a lot better than John Paxon and BJ Armstrong
    Jonas Valanciunas ain't Shaq but he can be a better scorer and hit the open jump shot
    Bargnani will be traded along with T-Ross under Phil Jackson possibly for some key backup veterans

    Give a year or two, the Raptors will make some noise in the NBA.
    I think with this above magic we'll be so good that it was cause a tear in the space-time continuum and we will travel back in time and win the past 5 championships! The Heat will make their way through the playoffs but they'll cancel the Finals because omg the Raptors already won it!
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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    This is an implied president title, not GM.. Phil would hire his own GM (most likely) and would have a say on who the coach would be.. I believe Phil would have a better vision for the team, but saying that Phil has no executive experience. So it could turn out badly.

    The thing I like about Phil as President is that he can bring some credibility back to the Raptors, something that Colangelo (in my opinion) was unable to do. The Raptors need to become relevant and hiring someone that a lot of people respect in the basketball community can only be a good thing (again in my opinion).
    The thing I would like about this is that BC would finally have someone to answer too. He wouldn't be the smartest person in the room anymore.

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    Holy crap
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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    This is an implied president title, not GM.. Phil would hire his own GM (most likely) and would have a say on who the coach would be.. I believe Phil would have a better vision for the team, but saying that Phil has no executive experience. So it could turn out badly.

    The thing I like about Phil as President is that he can bring some credibility back to the Raptors, something that Colangelo (in my opinion) was unable to do. The Raptors need to become relevant and hiring someone that a lot of people respect in the basketball community can only be a good thing (again in my opinion).
    Any scenario where Colangelo is gone is automatically a better situation. Even if the new guy fails to make the playoffs for the next four years he's still done better than BC.

    As for how it might work, well, even if Jackson hired a GM, you have to believe Jackson would have a big, big say in personnel decisions, including the coaching staff. A package deal of Jackson, a GM and a head coach as a team coming in would make a lot of sense.

    I am way too excited about this.....

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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    Holy crap
    Is that a good Holy Crap or a bad Holy Crap?

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    Phil Jackson would bring a level of respectability the team has NEVER had.
    @jerboat

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    That's (should be) a good "holy crap".

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/g...t-for-the-job/

    But what Leiweke might ideally represent is an individual within MLSE who would automatically have the clout with ownership while also having the sports savvy to hold the feet of the team executives in charge of the Leafs, Raptors and TFC to the fire. In his career heís been the general manager of a soccer team, a president of an NBA team and helped run an NHL team.

    He would represent the rare executive voice with first-hand knowledge of how winning franchises manage themselves. He was on the Lakers board of directors and front-and-centre with both the Galaxy and the Kings, challenging management and connecting with players. Coincidence or not, the Galaxy are two-time defending MLS champions and the Kings are coming off one of the most dominant playoff runs in modern NHL history as they won the franchiseís first Stanley Cup in style last June.

    Kings captain Dustin Brown considers him a friend and a number of Kings and Galaxy players had personal relationships with the man who paid their coaches and general managers.

    Itís a risky approach for a sports executive to take ó itís a very fine line between managing and meddling ó but done well it creates a level of accountability that has always been missing at MLSE, where ownership has typically lacked the confidence and know-how to push those entrusted to build winning teams or at least the knowledge to present alternative views.
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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    I just keep wondering why people think this is a strong basketball-related hire? Strong general hire? Maybe. But I really see nothing to suggest this guy has any special knowledge of the NBA. He's probably closer to owners and CEOs than he is to players, managers and coaches...in all sports.
    Good hire for MLSE generally? Yes. Which automatically makes it a good hire for the Raptors organization.

    The reason people are connecting dots here is that MLSE still has not extended Colangelo and there really isn't any good reason for it. They've seen him for 7 years, what could possibly happen in 2 weeks to change their minds either way? Hence, the speculation that they might be replacing him if the right guy wants the job; Phil Jackson maybe wants a job; Jackson worked with the new head of MLSE; MLSE has enough money to hire Jackson.

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    Quote slaw wrote: View Post
    Good hire for MLSE generally? Yes. Which automatically makes it a good hire for the Raptors organization.

    The reason people are connecting dots here is that MLSE still has not extended Colangelo and there really isn't any good reason for it. They've seen him for 7 years, what could possibly happen in 2 weeks to change their minds either way? Hence, the speculation that they might be replacing him if the right guy wants the job; Phil Jackson maybe wants a job; Jackson worked with the new head of MLSE; MLSE has enough money to hire Jackson.
    I can only imagine the amount of money Phil Jackson wants for the job. Regardless, I'm pretty sure MLSE does have enough money to match however many millions he wants as you stated.

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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    Phil Jackson would bring a level of respectability the team has NEVER had.
    Hopefully he's more effective as an executive than laughing stoc--sorry, than Michael Jordan.
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    Quote ebrian wrote: View Post
    Hopefully he's more effective as an executive than laughing stoc--sorry, than Michael Jordan.
    or Isaiah Thomas

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    Quote ebrian wrote: View Post
    Hopefully he's more effective as an executive than laughing stoc--sorry, than Michael Jordan.
    Exactly. Brilliant dude but sometimes I get weary on rookie GM's that were successful at other levels. That kind of stuff doesn't automatically translate.
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    Lol wow. Is all I can say.

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    Quote tenforthewin wrote: View Post
    Phil Jackson would be awesome to have as GM of the Toronto Raptors or as head coach, if he's the GM, he will most likely hire either Sam Cassell or Brian Shaw, we would love to see a triangle offense type of style for this team.

    Jackson would make DeRozan instantly better, could be Heir Jordan or Heir Kobe as opposed to Heir VC.
    Rudy Gay ain't no Scottie Pippen but he can be better scorer
    Amir Johnson is no Horace Grant but he can be a better defender
    Kyle Lowry is a lot better than John Paxon and BJ Armstrong
    Jonas Valanciunas ain't Shaq but he can be a better scorer and hit the open jump shot
    Bargnani will be traded along with T-Ross under Phil Jackson possibly for some key backup veterans

    Give a year or two, the Raptors will make some noise in the NBA.
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    Quote Employee wrote: View Post
    Exactly. Brilliant dude but sometimes I get weary on rookie GM's that were successful at other levels. That kind of stuff doesn't automatically translate.
    Agreed. Jackson brings instant credibility to the organization, but that doesn't necessarily mean he knows how to build a winning team.

    Jackson built himself through 4 of the greatest players of all time (Jordan, Pip, Kobe, Shaq).
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    I agree with Nilanka :O omg cant believe I just said that. Id rather the news be Raps pursuing coach Pop for GM position. the fact that this is leaked to Toronto looking for a GM brings up the possibility that Colangelo may not get fired but at the very least is walking on very thin ice and they are looking for a replacement GM, while BC continues to do the Can can on stage.

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    I'm torn because BC has done such an excellent job turning Toronto into a legit championship contender. I would hate to see him and Casey, who gave Toronto the top defense in the league, get the boot in favor of less talented people like Phil Jackson and Jerry Sloan

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Agreed. Jackson brings instant credibility to the organization, but that doesn't necessarily mean he knows how to build a winning team.

    Jackson built himself through 4 of the greatest players of all time (Jordan, Pip, Kobe, Shaq).
    No, it doesn't but we know for sure Colangelo will fail. Before that, MLSE hired Rob Babcock. I'm willing to take my chances with Phil. Pat Riley worked out pretty good in Miami. Don't think Jackson wouldn't like a ring as a GM/President to show he can do what Riley did....

    You can say that about every great NBA coach and GM. Popovich is nothing without Duncan; Riley nothing without Magic, etc.

    If you really want an experienced GM (i.e. rookies make you nervous) I hear David Kahn is available...

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    hey cool.

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