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  • Phil Jackson

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  • Masai Ujiri

    23 52.27%
  • Kevin Pritchard

    6 13.64%
  • Troy Weaver

    6 13.64%
  • David Morway

    1 2.27%
  • Ed Stefanski

    5 11.36%
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    As I mentioned in another post, with the current structure of Colangelo as President, I think you need someone unassociated with him moving forward. The whole point of a new GM is a new vision, I don't see it with Ujiri and Stefanski.

    Jackson is not going to happen. I'd be interested in it happening but realize it won't. Jackson can afford to be patient for a situation that fits him.

    Pritchard is not leaving Indiana in my opinion. He is from there and the Pacers are an upper echelon team now. Bird forced brought Pritchard in despite owner and Morway's (GM at time) objection leading to Morway's 'resignation'.

    That leaves Weaver and Morway. I don't see Weaver as he has no experience, it just does not seem like a move Leiweke is going to make. It hardly is a big splash but you can say the same thing (splash) about Morway, too.

    Supposedly in Indiana Bird/Morway had a falling out over the botched Mayo trade 2 years ago. Morway pushed too hard supposedly. In the end, it didn't matter as the trade did not get to league office in time (by a few minutes). That is just one story that is out there and is nothing more than speculation.



    It would appear Morway is not going to be influenced by the thoughts or opinions of Colangelo.
    Morway certainly has a new school style and he's financially responsible and self restrained. You may have sold me with this post. Beyond the organizational strength, is he a strong enough "basketball mind" on his own though? Or would he look to someone else, such as a new right hand man over scouting and has a great track record in analyzing NBA talent? Too bad Zeke burned the bridge out of town because that guy was good at scouting and draft if nothing else in the executive world.

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    I thought he was with Indiana now? And they're in the conference finals which tells me he has done a pretty good job with them.

    How do you know MLSE won't buy first round picks now that there is new management running basketball operations? We can't assume they are going to continue down the same path. If a new GM comes in with a new vision for the team and how to build it I beleive that new stategies will be employed and perhaps purchasing draft picks is one of them.
    He's not GM so what I said stands. Also, read post #8 and to refresh yourself on his past as a leader. He's a poor leader.

    In a high tax system what makes you think teams are going to be so eager to trade their picks to Toronto for money? Wouldn't be more wise to fix the cap instead of band aiding it with cash inflows?

    What makes you think MLSE are willing to fork over cash for 1st rounders?

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    Quote Mediumcore wrote: View Post
    I thought he was with Indiana now? And they're in the conference finals which tells me he has done a pretty good job with them.

    How do you know MLSE won't buy first round picks now that there is new management running basketball operations? We can't assume they are going to continue down the same path. If a new GM comes in with a new vision for the team and how to build it I beleive that new stategies will be employed and perhaps purchasing draft picks is one of them.
    I think Bird and Morway deserve credit for current state of Pacers. Morway replaced by Pritchard just last June.

    Augustin, Ben Hansbrough, Orlando Johnson, Mahinmi, Plumlee, and Young would have Pritchard's finger prints. All else is a combination of Bird and Morway.

    **EDIT** I stand corrected:

    Pritchard, a former general manager with Portland, played a part in the Pacers signing David West and then with acquiring Leandro Barbosa at the trade deadline.

    Bird likes Pritchard’s basketball knowledge. It helps that he has a relationship with him. The two were teammates with the Boston Celtics.

    http://blogs.indystar.com/pacersinsi...eplace-morway/
    I did not realize Pritchard was involved with the Pacers in the summer/free agency of 2011.
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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Source: "Kevin Pritchard Fired? WTF", Raptors Republic Forum

    This is why you don't want Pritchard as Raptors GM.
    Sounds like the Butch Carter of GMs....

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    Moving Forward:

    1.) I don't buy that Stefanski would continue Colangelo's vision. He might do that. But I suspect like all of us who "work for" someone, we often muse in our own minds about how "if we ran things it would be different". I also don't see him as the best choice.

    2.) I don't see Phil Jackson coming here for two reasons. 1.) Climate , 2.) BC looming overhead. I suspect Phil would want to be GM AND PRES. This is not something I know.

    3.) I would gladly take anyone we could out of the front offices of San Antonio.

    4.) I feel the GM timeline needs to be accelerated. Because it leads to a domino effect. You want the GM to have time to piece together scenarios, get his own staff in, make any coaching changes BEFORE SUMMER LEAGUE, although I feel like Casey should get one more shot since a little birdie told me that BC is fond of interfering with the coaches.

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    Ed will get the job.

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    My vote would be for Gar Forman (former GM of the Bulls). He's won an EOY award and got the Bulls the number one seed. Not sure if he's looking for another job but he'd be a guy I'd be interested in.

    Essentially I'd want a guy that would be able to get a decent asset for Bargnani, and Forman was able to get someone decent (future first rounder) for Tyrus Thomas.

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    Quote thead wrote: View Post
    Moving Forward:

    1.) I don't buy that Stefanski would continue Colangelo's vision. He might do that. But I suspect like all of us who "work for" someone, we often muse in our own minds about how "if we ran things it would be different". I also don't see him as the best choice.

    2.) I don't see Phil Jackson coming here for two reasons. 1.) Climate , 2.) BC looming overhead. I suspect Phil would want to be GM AND PRES. This is not something I know.

    3.) I would gladly take anyone we could out of the front offices of San Antonio.

    4.) I feel the GM timeline needs to be accelerated. Because it leads to a domino effect. You want the GM to have time to piece together scenarios, get his own staff in, make any coaching changes BEFORE SUMMER LEAGUE, although I feel like Casey should get one more shot since a little birdie told me that BC is fond of interfering with the coaches.
    Poor choice of words/phrasing on my part. Influence or meaningful input is my concern. I don't really care if Colangelo stays a part of Toronto, I just don't want him having a say in basketball decisions anymore.
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    Quote thead wrote: View Post
    Moving Forward:

    1.) I don't buy that Stefanski would continue Colangelo's vision. He might do that. But I suspect like all of us who "work for" someone, we often muse in our own minds about how "if we ran things it would be different". I also don't see him as the best choice.

    2.) I don't see Phil Jackson coming here for two reasons. 1.) Climate , 2.) BC looming overhead. I suspect Phil would want to be GM AND PRES. This is not something I know.

    3.) I would gladly take anyone we could out of the front offices of San Antonio.

    4.) I feel the GM timeline needs to be accelerated. Because it leads to a domino effect. You want the GM to have time to piece together scenarios, get his own staff in, make any coaching changes BEFORE SUMMER LEAGUE, although I feel like Casey should get one more shot since a little birdie told me that BC is fond of interfering with the coaches.
    30 days.

    That job will belong to the team's new general manager, whom Leiweke is hoping to have in place within the next 30 days.


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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    Ed will get the job.
    that made me wince. probably not a good thing.
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    1. No retreads.
    2. No Stefanski. No Ujiri. No one else ever associated with this disaster of a team.
    3. GM who promises to clean house in the management suites, scouting department, advisors, ball boys, mop girls, etc.
    4. GM with an actual plan, vision. Solid idea of what the team should look like, play like. Specifics on how to get there.
    5. Well versed on the analytics side. Well versed and experience on scouting side.
    6. Clear idea about what he wants in a coaching staff.

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Although extremely odd, I personally don't see Colangelo's "new role" being much of a concern because my hunch is that he's out the door as soon as he gets another offer. I wouldn't be surprised if that happens before training camp.
    that's what i'm thinking, but the bloom is off the rose, and from how i'm reading the situation, BC's preference is to be in a basketball-related position...so i'm thinking that unless shit gets real weird, he'll be around until he can land a cushy position, and that could take a while. i'm wondering if they (TL, namely) have given BC a timeframe for finding something else...like, they'll keep him on in some make-believe advisory role in which he's basically the guy from office space hanging out in the basement (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRyY4F7SZxE)...except they'll keep paying him.
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    Quote slaw wrote: View Post
    1. No retreads.
    2. No Stefanski. No Ujiri. No one else ever associated with this disaster of a team.
    3. GM who promises to clean house in the management suites, scouting department, advisors, ball boys, mop girls, etc.
    4. GM with an actual plan, vision. Solid idea of what the team should look like, play like. Specifics on how to get there.
    5. Well versed on the analytics side. Well versed and experience on scouting side.
    6. Clear idea about what he wants in a coaching staff.
    What do you call a retread?

    Ujiri has never been fired - is he one in your opinion?

    Morway (according to reports) and Weaver never had final say - are they retreads in your opinion?

    **EDIT**

    By the way, no snark here in the reply if it comes across that way. Genuine interest.
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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Source: "Kevin Pritchard Fired? WTF", Raptors Republic Forum

    This is why you don't want Pritchard as Raptors GM.

    Pritchard took the jailblazers and built the darling of the NBA. He was fired an hour before the draft, yet still continued to do his now no longer job to his full ability - does that sound like someone who is 'immature'?

    Lets remember who the owner is here - Paul Allen. A known egotist control freak with a short fuse. And I wonder where most of these disparaging comments about Pritchard came from...... hmmmmm......

    If you keep reading the article you see exactly what the 'problem' was - individuals trying to maximize their contractual value and owners not liking it. And it was Allen who had the gaul to do the firing at the most public of moments in the NBA, NBA draft night. Thats not a coincidence. If anyone has followed the Portland executive carousel its pretty clear the problem was never Pritchard.

    No one happens to remember that Allen derrailing the lockout negotiations?

    Yeah I'm not buying the problem was ever Pritchard, when the person who owns the team has a selfishness and ignorance that puts Kevin O'Leary to shame.

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    I've provided third party accounts with references. One problem was how he tried to get a raise, not the fact that he sought out a raise. That wasn't the only problem.

    I've read enough on Pritchard and studied how he assembled that team to tell you I don't want him as the Raptors' GM.

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    Out of curiosity, are people answering who they want to be or who they think will be?
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    Who I think - Ujiri

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    I've provided third party accounts with references. One problem was how he tried to get a raise, not the fact that he sought out a raise. That wasn't the only problem.

    I've read enough on Pritchard and studied how he assembled that team to tell you I don't want him as the Raptors' GM.
    With all due respect to Woj who I'm a big fan of, you provided one account:

    According to Chad Ford:

    The team throws him under the bus for months. Leaves him dangling, leaks to the press all sorts of ridiculous and derogatory stuff about him.
    http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/6/29...mmons-and-chad

    Should that be true, how easily could these same people be the sources in Woj's article?

    As for his maturity at the end, that completely the opposite of nearly everything I've read.

    "I admire the professionalism he exhibited tonight. He deserves a lot of kudos. He ran the draft," Timberwolves president David Kahn said. "I just think that he deserves to be commended for acting that way. You would have never known from dealing with him on the phone tonight that this is a guy who that happened to. And he must be a pretty special guy to be able to withstand that. I admire him greatly."
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5325352

    That seems to run precisely opposite to any statement about his maturity.

    One very interesting part from the Woj article was this though:

    Kevin was in a constant battle to position himself to get credit away from Nate for whatever success they were eventually going to have there,”
    really? The guy who drafted Brandon Roy, Lamarcus Aldridge and Nicholas Batum, who the NBA media already loved and fans worshipped, was trying to position himself to take credit away from Nate McMillian? What credit was he taking away exactly? Its also quite interesting when you read articles that state it was Paul Allen who was jealous of the credit Pritchard was getting

    Then he got fired. Abruptly. Reportedly because owner Paul Allen and his tight circle didn’t like Prichard and the credit he was getting for turning around the team.
    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...n-over-durant/


    And I just thought I'd throw out there how minor those 'millions' he threw into picks were - Serigio Rodriguez and Darrell Arthur. (he also sent a TPE + cash for Rudy Fernandez). Given the roster of Greg Oden, Brandon Roy, Lamarcus Aldridge, and Nicholas Batum, I think its a bit of a stretch claiming he wouldn't have gotten the team into such a great position without it. He made some great moves up in the draft, and can spot talent (former Spurs scout). Paul Allen's millions don't hurt, but its Pritchards actions and choices that deserve the credit.
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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Morway certainly has a new school style and he's financially responsible and self restrained. You may have sold me with this post. Beyond the organizational strength, is he a strong enough "basketball mind" on his own though? Or would he look to someone else, such as a new right hand man over scouting and has a great track record in analyzing NBA talent? Too bad Zeke burned the bridge out of town because that guy was good at scouting and draft if nothing else in the executive world.


    He's not GM so what I said stands. Also, read post #8 and to refresh yourself on his past as a leader. He's a poor leader.

    In a high tax system what makes you think teams are going to be so eager to trade their picks to Toronto for money? Wouldn't be more wise to fix the cap instead of band aiding it with cash inflows?

    What makes you think MLSE are willing to fork over cash for 1st rounders?
    My opinion is that he's a good judge of talent and makes good basketball decisions so I'm not concerned with this perception some have that he is a prima donna which I don't believe that he is. And I wasn't saying that MLSE would pay for first round picks but you make it sound as if you have first hand knowledge that they won't. I think if they bring in a GM whose philosophy is to build through the draft then they would attempt to acquire picks by purchasing them, through trades or by any other means at their disposal.

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    Who i think it will be? Ujiri, Stefanski or Weaver.

    Who i want to be the next GM of the Raps? Stefanski. Why? because he knows this team in and out.
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    Doug Smith believes that Ujiri will be the next GM at least based on his conversation on the Tim and Sid show today. I'm still not sure how I feel about him.

    Ujiri is to close to Bryan, and with Bryan still holding on to this pseduo-presidency title it makes me worried that there will be too much of the same old, same old.

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