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Thread: Masai Ujiri Hired As Raptors GM (post #780)

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    i'm pretty sure we're only gonna hear the news on BC after the Vote for the Kings on Wednesday night. Phil Jackson dismisses job offers right away when he's not interested. So i'm GUESSING he's interested, since he hasn't said no yet but Seattle is still his first choice. Kings move to seattle, BC is extended a year, Kings stay in Sacramento, Phil is president and BC can pack his bags.

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    Quote Rapstor4Life wrote: View Post
    cant wait for Wiggins to say no to us in 3 and 8 years WOOOOOOOOO!
    You know Wiggins is playing a year of college ball first right? So, in 3 years he will be only 2 years into his rookie deal.

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    Quote Primer wrote: View Post
    You know Wiggins is playing a year of college ball first right? So, in 3 years he will be only 2 years into his rookie deal.
    lol my bad #Facepalm

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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    Fuck BC. Smack him over the nose with a rolled up newspaper, Leiweke.
    lol

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    Some of you have come up with legitimate reasons to keep BC, but lets be real, his mistakes far, far, far outweigh any of those. The Bosh debacle in itself deserves for him to get fired. How can you let a perennial all-star go in return for nothing?

    I don't want to count the trades because that is a comedy in itself; original 2011 pick sent to heat for oneal and company, and then came back to us with a second pick which was sent to chicago, which was then sent back to the heat (norris cole). raptors would have had a high pick anyways regardless of the trades.

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    LEAFS are done.

    Seattle is done for foreseeable future.

    Phil available?

    Colangelo decision forthcoming?


    Arash Markazi: Adam Silver: "Expansion was discussed as a possibility... We regretted having to leave the market and we fully intend to return some day." Twitter @ArashMarkazi
    Sean Cunningham: STERN: Agreement of Maloofs to sell to Seattle ended with today's relocation vote. Twitter @News10Sean
    Sean Cunningham: STERN: General talk to consider expansion in the future after TV deal is negotiated. #NBAKings #NBASeattle Twitter @News10Sean
    Jon Santiago: Stern on whether there's a promise of expansion for Seattle: "Just our promise of fair dealing and ultimate consideration down the road." Twitter @itsjonsantiago
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    DALLAS — The NBA Board of Governors voted Wednesday to keep the Kings in Sacramento and not allow them to move to Seattle, a person with knowledge of the vote told USA TODAY Sports.

    The person spoke on the condition of anonymity because the vote had not been made public.

    Commissioner David Stern later confirmed the decision and said the relocation vote was 22-8 in favor of Sacramento. The Maloof family that owns the Kings has been wanting to sell the team to a group from Seattle, led by hedge fund manager Chris Hansen and Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer, who wanted to move the team to Seattle. But now that their bid has been blocked, Stern said he is hopeful that the Maloofs will finalize a deal with the Sacramento group headed by Indian software magnate Vivek Ranadive.

    "We will talk to the Maloofs, and seek in the next 24 to 48 hours whether we can help facilitate an agreement to be signed between the Ranadive group and the Maloofs for the sale of the franchise in Sacramento," Stern said."It is my expectation that we'll be able to make a deal with the Maloofs and the Ranadive group to transfer title of the team in Sacramento. It's not a certainty, but we're going to work on that result."

    Said Ranadive: "Our lawyers (the Maloofs and Ranadive groups) have been talking for sometime, and we believe that we can get this done quickly," Ranadive said.
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...-stay/2162709/
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    Sacramento is staying put.. what does this do to our chances of gathering Phil??
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    Quote enlightenment wrote: View Post
    Sacramento is staying put.. what does this do to our chances of gathering Phil??
    We dont know all his options, but from what is known Seattle was 1st, so that can only help us, whether we were 2nd or 4th only Phil knows.

    Working for an owner who just throws an extra 161 million on the pot and working for the maloofs who are broke is not the same so we definitely moved up a spot.

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    Is there any possibility that Leiweke is taking so long with his decision on Bryan Colangelo, due to the influence of Jerry Colangelo? I have this impression of guys like Jerry Colangelo and Jerry West, as sort of the God Fathers of the NBA, and they have a lot of connections, so you don't really want to cross them or get on their bad side.

    I would have thought if the decision was over releasing most anyone else it would be pretty cut and dry. Bad record, bad team. What else is there to consider?

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    What's to consider is the Leiweke is probably putting together a list of candidates to replace Colangelo and doesn't feel the need to do anything with Colangelo until he's got his list of guys and is ready to start interviewing them. Letting him go now would allow candidates to hold the vacancy over on the Raptors and affect contract negotiations with such a person. Although I don't think it's great business practice to leave BC hanging, I also don't think the organization owes it to Colangelo to give him an answer right away either.

    And BC has every right to resign, as Tim has stated -- that's his call to make. I just don't think there's a lot of people knocking on his door to offer him another GM job and that's probably why it's only rumors that he'd walk away.
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    https://twitter.com/michaelgrange/st...19906879905792

    For what it's worth, Grange slammed the door on PJ coming to Toronto at the beginning of the week.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Jon Santiago: Stern on whether there's a promise of expansion for Seattle: "Just our promise of fair dealing and ultimate consideration down the road." Twitter @itsjonsantiago
    That's pretty funny coming from Stern who screwed Seattle so his buddy could have his team in OKC. Fair dealing. Good one.

    What's to consider is the Leiweke is probably putting together a list of candidates to replace Colangelo and doesn't feel the need to do anything with Colangelo until he's got his list of guys and is ready to start interviewing them. Letting him go now would allow candidates to hold the vacancy over on the Raptors and affect contract negotiations with such a person. Although I don't think it's great business practice to leave BC hanging, I also don't think the organization owes it to Colangelo to give him an answer right away either.
    No one outside of Toronto cares about the Colangelo situation. Few people in Toronto care. Whether he stays or is fired isn't even a small blip on the NBA radar. People are overanalyzing it because nothing else is going on in Raptorland. Occam's Razor is likely the rule here: MLSE/Leiweke are waiting on someone or they honestly don't know what to do. The second possibility scares me but, frankly, I couldn't care less about Colangelo's feelings or the mythical "PERCEPTION AROUND THE NBA". Colangelo's hiring was "PERCEIVED AROUND THE NBA" as a great move. Look how that turned out.

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    Quote slaw wrote: View Post
    That's pretty funny coming from Stern who screwed Seattle so his buddy could have his team in OKC. Fair dealing. Good one.



    No one outside of Toronto cares about the Colangelo situation. Few people in Toronto care. Whether he stays or is fired isn't even a small blip on the NBA radar. People are overanalyzing it because nothing else is going on in Raptorland. Occam's Razor is likely the rule here: MLSE/Leiweke are waiting on someone or they honestly don't know what to do. The second possibility scares me but, frankly, I couldn't care less about Colangelo's feelings or the mythical "PERCEPTION AROUND THE NBA". Colangelo's hiring was "PERCEIVED AROUND THE NBA" as a great move. Look how that turned out.
    It turned into our first atalntic division championship and playoffs the first two years he was here. So, it was a great hire. That was proven right. Obviously, things fell apart in the 3rd year and then on. But, that doesn't mean it wasn't a great hire at the time. HE wouldn't be a great hire now,but he damn well was than.
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    Quote yertu damkule wrote: View Post
    so, it would take an 'experienced' man to know within 1/2-a-second to just flush the fucking toilet & let fly into a nice, clean bowl? you get THAT metaphor? you do realize that in this scenario, it's BC who has dropped the turd in the bowl & neglected to clean up after himself, right? and your argument is that BC is the ONLY one (well, he or some other mysterious 'EXPERIENCED' man) who could possibly clean up his mess? PUH-FUCKING-LEASE.

    sometimes, i think there's a large swath of raptor fans who care much more about what the media/fans in other markets will think of this team/franchise than how the team itself is run/performs on the floor. of course, that may be because those are BC's prime concerns as well.

    oh, and it's a good thing the nuggs went after an 'experienced' GM to lead them out of what very well could have been a similar festering pile of dogshit of a roster. oh, what's that?!?! they hired a guy with NO GM EXPERIENCE!?!? and he just won exec of the year*? NOT POSSIBLE.

    *there is no bigger joke of an award out there, but it seems to be the kind of thing that a good portion of raptor fans (i.e. BC apologists) seem to cling to as having some kind of signficant import. well, at least when it suits their narrative.
    BC won executive of the year his first year here. Now look at him.

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    Quote LBF wrote: View Post
    It turned into our first atalntic division championship and playoffs the first two years he was here. So, it was a great hire. That was proven right. Obviously, things fell apart in the 3rd year and then on. But, that doesn't mean it wasn't a great hire at the time. HE wouldn't be a great hire now,but he damn well was than.
    First I'd say that 5 years of no playoffs > 2 years of playoffs, and even if we look at only his first contract 3 years of no playoffs > 2 years of playoffs. And thats just limiting the criteria to making the playoffs, which is not exactly a ringing endorsement when we consider over half the league makes it to that level every single year.

    To add to that. The year the Raps won the division, the east, and the division especially, was terrible. It was almost a default win. I know to fans it was exciting because the Raps went from the bottom of the crapper to some semblence of success, but the following years showed that it was external forces (a crappy east) that made the team look better than it really was. Once those teams around them improved, the team Colangelo had built/was building was exposed.

    Further more, when you look at what Colangelo had available to him - tons of cap space, a young all-star big, a first overall pick, Calderon/Mo Pete, and a young highly tradeable asset (Charlie V), it really makes what he accomplished then, and over time look so much worse.

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    Quote phez wrote: View Post
    Some of you have come up with legitimate reasons to keep BC, but lets be real, his mistakes far, far, far outweigh any of those. The Bosh debacle in itself deserves for him to get fired. How can you let a perennial all-star go in return for nothing?

    I don't want to count the trades because that is a comedy in itself; original 2011 pick sent to heat for oneal and company, and then came back to us with a second pick which was sent to chicago, which was then sent back to the heat (norris cole). raptors would have had a high pick anyways regardless of the trades.
    The Bosh screw up is his legacy in Toronto.

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    Quote Craiger wrote: View Post
    First I'd say that 5 years of no playoffs > 2 years of playoffs, and even if we look at only his first contract 3 years of no playoffs > 2 years of playoffs. And thats just limiting the criteria to making the playoffs, which is not exactly a ringing endorsement when we consider over half the league makes it to that level every single year.

    To add to that. The year the Raps won the division, the east, and the division especially, was terrible. It was almost a default win. I know to fans it was exciting because the Raps went from the bottom of the crapper to some semblence of success, but the following years showed that it was external forces (a crappy east) that made the team look better than it really was. Once those teams around them improved, the team Colangelo had built/was building was exposed.

    Further more, when you look at what Colangelo had available to him - tons of cap space, a young all-star big, a first overall pick, Calderon/Mo Pete, and a young highly tradeable asset (Charlie V), it really makes what he accomplished then, and over time look so much worse.
    It's funny in a morbid, ironic way, but I think the unexpected early success the Raptors enjoyed under BC was the very cause of his eventual undoing. He viewed the success that year as being a legitimate indicator of the talent/potential of that group of players, which led to Bosh being branded a franchise player and an annual barrage of band-aid solutions in a miserable attempt to build around Bosh. If the team had simply showed some improvement as a young team, without skyrocketing to a division championship, the past 7 years may have turned out much differently.

    As an aside, I also think Sam Mitchell would have been fired after BC's first season, had it not been for the COY award that came as a result of the team's unexpected division win.

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    Quote LBF wrote: View Post
    BC won executive of the year his first year here. Now look at him.

    Regardless of whether you care or not how the league views us. It's important.
    Again, pretty sure no one in the NBA gives a damn. I have not seen one quote from anyone other than Toronto media guys (Colangelo's biggest defenders) talking about 'image'.

    And, who cares? Colangelo has the royal familial and it hasn't helped Toronto at all. All the supposed 'respect' and admiration he has around the NBA (I seriously question this meme) hasn't resulted in any coups for Toronto. His international connections got them Parker and Garbo and.... no one since. That was 7 years ago and it was Gherardini.

    I met Colangelo years ago at a corporate event in Toronto and he seemed like a good guy. Personally, he seems like he'd be a decent guy to work for and with. Having said that, based on the results, I am pretty sure he's a fraud. Someone who has a big reputation and surrounds himself with really good people (who want to associated with the reputation) to get the good work/jobs, etc. but isn't really the elite guy he is perceived to be. These guys all get exposed eventually cause they can't live up to the advanced billing and, after awhile, the excuses for the misteakes get old.

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