Also, Demar played a lot more with AB than Fields did. He also played during the worst stretch of the season while Fields was injured. Simply using these two stats in a vacuum does not tell the whole story. I'm not saying that you're wrong but I would need something significantly more in depth than that (using situational data, video based analytical data, etc) to come to any conclusion.
For instance, for all of his poor individual stats the defensive ranking of the starting lineup was extremely high. That could be for a number of reasons. One could argue that it proves that the wing spots work well together guarding players. But again, that stat doesn't tell the whole story. I want to know the whole story. To me that includes finding out what a healthy Landry Fields looks like on the court.
Raptors should not trade Demar and start Landry because "theNBAGeek.com and net OffRtg/DefRtg through stats.nba.com" say it's a good idea. Point finale. I just find that ridiculous. Lets see how Landry does next season before this is even brought up again.
This thread sucks. So many UNREALISTIC what if scenarios. So many unrealistic trade suggestions.
Let's be real here. Do you guys really think DeRozan is going anywhere? the guy just signed a 4 year extension 7 months ago. If they move him, do you guys really think the Raptors will be a better team next season? or get a great package or young player in return? i don't think so.
Second, do you guys really think the Raps will just let Gay walk away or use him as a trade chip? really? he's the best player they've had since CHRIS BOSH. Best winger they've had by far since VINCE CARTER. Yeah trade him. Shaking my head right now.
Like it or not, this is the core of the team: JV, Gay, DeRozan, Lowry, Amir and Ross. I'd like to see what this current group of guys can do in a full season before i make any move.
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Let's NOT fuck things up for another five years.
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The thing about Landry is that we have no clue if he'll ever get back to shooting average (let alone better). What anyone on the Raptors says in public doesn't really have a lot of meaning, it's company talk. They won't come out very often and say something negative about a player.
I like Landry a lot, but the fact is we offered him a (already high) contract when he was apparently injured (medical test anyone?) and right now we are only hoping we'll get something resembling fair value in production in return. But he probably won't go anywhere, so there's nothing wrong with hope.
I think he'll recover. Alex Mckenchnie wouldn't just spit mindless positivity, he knows what he's talking about
What exactly did he say about Fields anyway? There might be a link in this thread or some other, but I missed it (and can't find it quickly).
Point finale? I'd that like an end of thread special ending? Maybe a 2 hour special? Or maybe the head of the CRTC has graced RR with his presence and shut the thread down?
The fact of the matter is there is enough evidence to support the claim the Raptors are a better team with a not 100% LF over an inefficient one dimensional DD. it might not pass the eye test for the always sexy and eye catching points per game but there is much more to the game than jump shots and the game is played on two sides of the ball. When dd has an off shooting night what does he consistently bring to the floor contribute elsewhere?
There is also evidence to support the other side of the argument but that too is circumstantial and inconclusive.
I always thought it was the point of the forums was to discuss. There have been a couple of people saying how stupid it is yet it generated 6 pages of comments. What I find ridiculous is a person entering an ongoing conversation telling everyone how ridiculous the conversation is when they missed the entire point to begin with. It is not about LF vs DD, there are many layers to this discussion and clearly that has gone over your head or you were too lazy and ignorant to follow the discussion before proclaiming the end.
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Creates balance in the rotations, better spread of talent - especially considering the fact the Raptors have a poor bench - and more dimensions (offense vs. defense) on the court.
Starters: Lowry, Fields, Gay, Boozer (hypothetically), Valanciunas.
Bench: Back-up point guard, Ross, DeRozan, Acy, Amir.
Sorry man didn't mean to be a dick, just saying this is all really really unrealistic. Does anyone actually think Demar will be traded this off-season or come off the bench? Would the team really take these risks?
Second Bold: Would the team take risks? Yes, if it actually meant being able to acquire Kevin Love in a deal.
I don't agree with the "unrealistic" speculation, I mean, we acquired Rudy Gay didn't we? ....
And I realize that because of Landry's injury he's had to bring other things to the table because his shot isn't working for him which he was doing really well like rebounding, steals and basically just being a pretty good hustle guy. But, if his shot doesn't come back and he's going to have to rely on those aspects of his game to help a team which he'll probably be pretty good at why wouldn't he just continue to come off the bench as a terrific role player?
Demar is going to continue to get better, we've all seen, every season he's come back with some extra added to his game and he's become pretty consistent. He's only going to get stronger and smarter, he's only 23. Toronto should let him develop and not throw his game off by sending him to the bench a year after he sings a 4 year 38 million dollar contract. If he doesn't continue to get better and Fields is the better man then it'll happen but why should the force it if it's so uncertain. It could go horribly wrong and we'd all be on here busting whoever our GM will be who made the decision and asking for him to be fired.
All I'm saying is it would be a fuckin risky and bold move lol trading him this off season or putting him on the bench.
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