You don't know that. The Raptors have torn it down multiple times and Colangelo had two separate cracks at it with lots of cap space and couldn't get it done. You don't need to rip it down, you need somebody in there that can make the right decisions.
Gutting and nose diving isn't a proven method to victory.
At some point the Raptors need to build a level of consistency in making the playoffs before high profile FA's are ever going to want to consider coming here without there being extra money involved. Gutting is only going to further destroy the reputation of the team and at a time when they're just about ready to make a playoff push. Chances are they're not going to hit a Durant and Westbrook combo in the draft. They should rebuild credibility now when eyebrows are raised at the executive shuffle. They should strike now at the playoff while keeping the long term in mind; it is very possible to do this.
I somewhat agree that the team tried to do a real rebuild going into the Bosh era. But they also failed to do it properly. In the end, the team that won the Atlantic division was not built patiently by stocking assets. It was built by on the fly by just plugging holes. And that has been Colangelo's strategy since.
The last 2-3 seasons is when they should have committed to a proper rebuild, and basically "tank". But they didn't. Basically, BC should have been firm with Bosh in the season and told him "if you can't give me a commitment now I'm trading you before the deadline". Who knows what the does for things? I think the team would've given up on the season, so probably a fair amount of extra losses. It wasn't the best draft, but even better chances at John Wall (Wiz at the 5th worst record, so they moved up) would have been nice. Not to mention Paul George was taken at 10, and he was the guy I wanted so badly in that draft...just 3 spots ahead of Toronto.
Basically, I'm not sure this team has ever really blown it up and done a good job. Again, I can't count the first years as blowing anything up. The success in the Bosh years was not really a result of the "rebuilding" done by Babcock (that's why it wasn't sustainable, because it was just a constant patch-job). And the most recent opportunity was basically wasted.
All that is besides the point, at 2 points in our franchise we became a bottom 3 team in consecutive years* and following those years we ended up going as far as we have as a franchise thanks in large part to the players we got in those drafts.
*3 but I'm not including inaugural years as the deck was pretty stacked against us at that point (no #1 picks for 3 years)
And come on, who are we kidding here. Why don't you state their record the year they won the Atlantic? While you're at it tell us how the rest of the division did that year? Nice try though...
Last edited by Apollo; Wed May 22nd, 2013 at 02:59 PM. Reason: iphone
Blowing it up is a stupid idea period.
- With that many wins what place would they be in the conference standings this last season?
- With that many wins what place would they be in the division standings this last season?
- What was their record the following season and the season after that?
Do you see where I'm going with this?
Fun fact: the Raptors along with Charlotte are the only franchises currently in the NBA to never have achieved 50-win season
Right. The Kings of blowing it up haven't won a darn thing. Thanks for bringing that stat up Sig.
Is it me or does DD become the odd man out more and more each day?
Only reason why JV is likely safe is because he has shown his floor to be an average to slightly above average NBA centre - the hardest position to fill in the NBA."I guess I don't think that we're 'right there,'" Leiweke said. "I don't think we're a piece away. I think we have work to do."
"Championships are what we live for, now lets go win them."Tim Leiweke
Basketball has clear winners every night --except at the draft, which is all homework, politics and chance.
At least someone gets it. Fortunately for us, it's the guy on top.Tim Leiweke wrote:
Everyone gets that. We're just not all on board with slashing the cap to nothing, praying for a high pick, praying that the high pick turns out to be a really good player and then praying that really good player decides to stay in Toronto. We've been there, we've seen this. It hasn't worked and I personally don't want to sit through three to five more seasons of losing to have a couple chances at the roulette wheel and to see them overpay for free agents.
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