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    Quote tucas wrote: View Post
    While I'm not ready to write him off 100% you have to wonder why? Look at the rotations at PF he's played with. Jason Thompson and chuck Hayes on Sacramento and Greg smith and Montiejunas on Houston. He couldn't even crack the rotation on either team playing with sub par PFs.
    Very well put. And now Houston is willing to trade him primarily as a salary dump. Traded twice before his second year...both times by teams that were stocking young talent. You'd think if he showed signs of being something special, that wouldn't be the case.

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    How? The Raptors can't eat cap. The Rockets want to dump him to make a run at Dwight.

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    We can't trade 2014 1st rounder, but maybe 2015 1st unprotected would be enough ... salary dumps aren't looking for best offer of players ... picks, or tying other bad contracts. Maybe we take Royce White ... little more salary ... who knows.
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    He didn't play much in Houston because he didn't fit into their offence. They liked to play 4 shooters with Asik, and that worked when they had Morris and Paterson since they can both shoot, but Robinson can't so he got buried on the bench.

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    Ross and Fields for Asik and Robinson.

    Rockets save about $2.9M. Fields gets to play with his best bud again.

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    Ross and Fields for Asik and Robinson.

    Rockets save about $2.9M. Fields gets to play with his best bud again.
    I think they can get a much better deal for Asik. Big men are valuable and his contract is reasonable.

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    First I think Robinson has a tonnnnnnnn of solid NBA potential, kids going to work his ass off to get bigger, already has the moves, just needs the place to showcase them. If Houston traded away Asik then Daryl Morey should be shot. To get Howard they'd be destroying the nucleus of an already good team that has potential to get soooo much better. I'd give them what they want for Robinson...I really would.

    If anyone is interested I'm dropping an article on the link below regarding the whole Dwight to Houston thing
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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    I think they can get a much better deal for Asik. Big men are valuable and his contract is reasonable.
    I can't think of another way where Houston sheds salary, gives up Robinson and the Raptors get him. I agree with you, which means a Robinson to Toronto deal is extremely unlikely.

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    Did someone really say that the Rockets would trade Robinson AND Asik for Bargnani?

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    Ross and Fields for Asik and Robinson.

    Rockets save about $2.9M. Fields gets to play with his best bud again.
    If they're going for Dwight, is that that the best they can do?

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    Quote tucas wrote: View Post
    While I'm not ready to write him off 100% you have to wonder why? Look at the rotations at PF he's played with. Jason Thompson and chuck Hayes on Sacramento and Greg smith and Montiejunas on Houston. He couldn't even crack the rotation on either team playing with sub par PFs.
    Sacramento is a mess of an organization. Smart didn't really play Isaiah Thomas until late in the season and Thornton-who's arguably their best shooter-was on the bench most the season.

    In Houston, it's true that McHale knows what big men talent is (he brought KLove to Wolves) but the trade happened halfway into the season. They were eyeing playoffs so the focus was to win games as opposed to player development. TRob has a lot potential but he's not ready just yet. Like most big men, it takes a couple years of development before they can contribute. Considering Asik is also offensively limited, it wouldn't make sense to pair TRob with him either.

    Prying him away from Houston for anything outside of lottery value (cash, picks, trade, etc) would be a steal. If I was the nets and I have enough cash, i'd try to go for him. They're currently running Reggie Evans as the starting 4. Lopez isn't the best rebounder so having an athletic 4 like TRob can help (I know reggie is a beast on the boards, but he's not as athletic and he's undersized). TRob can also learn a lot from Lopez who's arguably one of the most offensively skilled big men in the league
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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    How? The Raptors can't eat cap. The Rockets want to dump him to make a run at Dwight.
    Can't we amnesty Klieza? Sorry if I'm wrong. I don't really have much knowledge in the process of amnesty.
    Last edited by Blacklash2k4; Fri May 31st, 2013 at 03:37 AM.

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    Can't you do Acy for T-Rob straight up?

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    Throw AA in there too actually that should make it work.

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    The problem with Robinson is he's PF size, but plays like a typical C. Which would be fine, but he doesn't have a touch around the rim. In college he basically muscled and bullied guys, thats not an option at his size in the NBA. He's not much of a floor runner, not much of a jump shooter, not much of a passer or ball handler.

    He's a good rebounder and could become an excellent defender (although not a rim protector). If he can add a consistent 15fter and just a little something on the block, he's probably got an Antonio Davis ceiling. But he's also gonna have to learn how to get down and dirty - and he seems like too nice of a guy for that.

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    I can't think of another way where Houston sheds salary, gives up Robinson and the Raptors get him. I agree with you, which means a Robinson to Toronto deal is extremely unlikely.
    I don't see it happening. I think the only contract they would "want" is Lowry's so they can waive him and only pay him his small guaranteed amount. If they sent slightly more money to us then waived him, that could save them 4-5 million...But since they traded us Lowry, that's not on the table until free agency gets underway, which could be too long a wait, not to mention how incredibly uncertain it makes the PG position in Toronto.

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    Id rather we get Ed back than T Rob I know hes a rookie but he shows little upside or growth looks like a role player to me, but ya never know....both teams he has been on during his rookie campaign is just trying to get rid of him. But if we can turn Bargnani into him then its a positive in my book...

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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    Can't you do Acy for T-Rob straight up?
    I'd say Acy is a much better player than T-Robb. Acy showed all season though undersized hes not going to be pushed around.

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    TRob needs an environment to grow ... and now that he will be playing with a chip on those monster shoulders, the NBA will soon need to beware. Took him a while to become a college standout, and i'm sure the NBA learning curve is much higher - but if he can adapt his many moves and counters to NBA-sized defenders, he would be an amazing long term Jonas sidekick.
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    Forget Robinson unless you add a third team to take a raptor contract.

    Houston is looking to take back NO salary. Raps can't do that.

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