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Thread: Ujiri is trying to get in the draft, who you want?

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    The picks we need to Target are Houston, Atlanta and Dallas.

    Atlanta has four draft picks and I doubt they want THAT many rookies.

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    I forgot Shabazz. UCLA players are ALWAYS viewed as overrated and then end up tearing up the league. His college season was pretty lackluster but don't forget all the bullshit he went through to start the season. He's got great lateral quickness and is VERY strong. Definitely NBA ready. I think at worst he'll be a very good sixth man.

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    if we could pick up Dennis Shroeder and Shabazz Mohammed that would give me a very solid basketball erection

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    atlanta only has 22 million in guaranteed contracts. basically the whole team is up for FA except for horford and lou williams. they build a team full of rookies, tank it this year, sign wiggins and load up on superstars in 2014. sounds like a plan to me!

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    Quote phez wrote: View Post
    atlanta only has 22 million in guaranteed contracts. basically the whole team is up for FA except for horford and lou williams. they build a team full of rookies, tank it this year, sign wiggins and load up on superstars in 2014. sounds like a plan to me!

    If that is the case Horford straight up for Bargnani

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    Every time I mention Tim Tim I hear cricket chirping. LOL

    I must be in the minority who view his value underrated due to questions about factors that won't prevent him from playing in the league a long time. I'm thinking Mo Pete potential.
    I don't think anything about how I see his value is affected by other factors. I'm not high on him.

    If I want to target a shooter with solid intangibles, that's Karasev. Excellent shooter, good intangibles on both ends, crafty playmaker. He's always excelled and been one of the best players in the world in his age group. Very competitive player. I don't worry about whether he can be a keeper, I just wonder what his ceiling is. My hope is a Garbo-type player with better shooting and passing. Oh, and he's a lefty, who can go and finish right.

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    okay...there we go Karasev, Shroeder and that Shabang guy

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    Quote thead wrote: View Post
    The picks we need to Target are Houston, Atlanta and Dallas.

    Atlanta has four draft picks and I doubt they want THAT many rookies.
    I thought about that with Atlanta, but I don't know what their asking price will be. They could easily end up in tank mode next season....and so would be reluctant to part with young pieces as they will be stocking up on them.

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    Quote thead wrote: View Post
    If that is the case Horford straight up for Bargnani
    Believe me, I'm hoping big time that Atlanta strikes out in free agency and goes into tank mode.

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    Wow...conflicting posts.....I want Horford, but not Atlanta's draft picks because I doubt their availability in tank mode.

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    Quote phez wrote: View Post
    atlanta only has 22 million in guaranteed contracts. basically the whole team is up for FA except for horford and lou williams. they build a team full of rookies, tank it this year, sign wiggins and load up on superstars in 2014. sounds like a plan to me!
    It sounds like they're going all-in to sign BOTH Howard and CP3 this summer... there's a funny article on ESPN about a letter to their season ticket holders about targeting those two, which is technically a violation of the league's tampering rules... the Hawks can't do anything right! lol

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    Quote CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
    It sounds like they're going all-in to sign BOTH Howard and CP3 this summer... there's a funny article on ESPN about a letter to their season ticket holders about targeting those two, which is technically a violation of the league's tampering rules... the Hawks can't do anything right! lol
    And really, what are the odds even ONE of them would go there? Man...Atlanta's just a mess all the time, no matter what or how they're doing on the court. Just a mess.

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    That's a very small list though.

    Would you only trade into the draft specifically for these players on draft night?
    If Zeller or Shabazz dropped, I'd try hard to get them.

    Those are the guys I like from 12 down.
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    except at the draft, which is all homework, politics and chance.

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    Dallas may be willing to take a Lowry and cash for Marion and 13th pick swap.

    Another idea:

    To Philadelphia:
    Derozan
    Amir

    To Toronto:
    J Rich
    Hawes
    #11 Pick

    Another:

    To Phoenix:
    Derozan

    To Toronto:
    Shannon Brown
    #5 Draft Pick

    Another:

    To Detroit:
    Derozan
    Kleiza

    To Toronto:
    Stuckey
    #8 Pick

    Another:

    To Milwaukee:
    Derozan

    To Toronto:
    Udoh
    #15 pick, #43 pick

    Another:

    To Chicago:
    Derozan

    To Toronto:
    Rip Hamilton
    Marquis Teague
    #20 pick

    I have nothing against Derozan, I was just thinking who we could trade him to in order to get a draft pick this year.
    Whatever, man.

    Anyone who is always looking to trade DeRozan is a full fledged bottler of Haterade.
    "Championships are what we live for, now lets go win them."
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzyr-...ayer_embedded#!

    wouldn't mind picking this guy up

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    And really, what are the odds even ONE of them would go there? Man...Atlanta's just a mess all the time, no matter what or how they're doing on the court. Just a mess.
    I wouldn't discount Ferry in Atlanta...how did he convince the Nets to take on Joe Johnson? Also ATL is Howard's hometown and that CP3 went to Wake Forest U. in NC not too far away. And they have the cap room. If he can put a supporting cast (already has Smoove and Horford) together it might not be as much a pipedream.

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    Quote Bendit wrote: View Post
    I wouldn't discount Ferry in Atlanta...how did he convince the Nets to take on Joe Johnson? Also ATL is Howard's hometown and that CP3 went to Wake Forest U. in NC not too far away. And they have the cap room. If he can put a supporting cast (already has Smoove and Horford) together it might not be as much a pipedream.
    It is going to be tough to do regardless but when talking about CP3/Howard/Smoove/Horford, you are only going to be able to have 3 of the 4. There is NO way to get 4 of them on the same roster without one of them taking the top up exception or veteran's minimum.
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    It is going to be tough to do regardless but when talking about CP3/Howard/Smoove/Horford, you are only going to be able to have 3 of the 4. There is NO way to get 4 of them on the same roster without one of them taking the top up exception or veteran's minimum.
    You are right of course...I should have been more explicit... that Smoove and Horford could be used as assets in a trade (or sign&) for a less costly supporting cast.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    If Zeller or Shabazz dropped, I'd try hard to get them.

    Those are the guys I like from 12 down.
    hypothetically if we had 13 and zeller fell, I'd figuratively shit myself. actually we will get the 13 and literally zeller will be picked 12.

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    Quote Miekenstien wrote: View Post
    hypothetically if we had 13 and zeller fell, I'd figuratively shit myself. actually we will get the 13 and literally zeller will be picked 12.
    Schroeder is a nice consolation.
    "Championships are what we live for, now lets go win them."
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