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    "The 6'3" guard from Marquette is playing well, but for whom is he doing it for?"

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    I think this is a smart signing by MU.

    Assuming Lowry is going to be playing 33-35 mins a night, theres really only 13-15 mins for the backup anyway.

    By signing guys like Buyck and Stone, MU is avoiding the PG controversy we've dealt with every year for the last 6, and is just counting on them being good enough to hold the fort, while Lowry catches his breath.

    This is Lowry's team now.
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    Quote TheGloveinRapsUniform wrote: View Post
    where are jamario moon, garbo, ukic, solomon, AP, Forbes, AA now? Exactly.
    What about Bayless?

    He's carved himself out a nice little niche in Memphis.
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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    What about Bayless?

    He's carved himself out a nice little niche in Memphis.
    Guy that takes a lot of bad shots in the playoffs?

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    I think this is a smart signing by MU.

    Assuming Lowry is going to be playing 33-35 mins a night, theres really only 13-15 mins for the backup anyway.

    By signing guys like Buyck and Stone, MU is avoiding the PG controversy we've dealt with every year for the last 6, and is just counting on them being good enough to hold the fort, while Lowry catches his breath.

    This is Lowry's team now.
    It's not the 13 - 15 minutes I'm worried about it's the 13 - 15 games Lowry misses every year that concerns me.

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    I think this is a smart signing by MU.

    Assuming Lowry is going to be playing 33-35 mins a night, theres really only 13-15 mins for the backup anyway.

    By signing guys like Buyck and Stone, MU is avoiding the PG controversy we've dealt with every year for the last 6, and is just counting on them being good enough to hold the fort, while Lowry catches his breath.

    This is Lowry's team now.
    Agreed.

    What concerns me though is what happens when Lowry inevitably goes down with an injury. It's all well and good for him to be the undisputed starting PG, but if that status comes at the expense of a credible backup, I'm not sure how helpful it is in the first place.

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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    Guy that takes a lot of bad shots in the playoffs?
    Hah. Was just going to say this.

    A team like Memphis, I could probably play PG and look good. It's a testament to how strong their bigs are that they gave Bayless minutes and STILL went deep into the playoffs.

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    I think this is a smart signing by MU.

    Assuming Lowry is going to be playing 33-35 mins a night, theres really only 13-15 mins for the backup anyway.

    By signing guys like Buyck and Stone, MU is avoiding the PG controversy we've dealt with every year for the last 6, and is just counting on them being good enough to hold the fort, while Lowry catches his breath.

    This is Lowry's team now.
    Wonder what happens if Lowry tweaks something? I suspect these are moves that smell of "organic tank"....sink or swim.

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    Quote TheGloveinRapsUniform wrote: View Post
    hahaha exactly what i said, well, sort of. not as graphic tho.
    where are jamario moon, garbo, ukic, solomon, AP, Forbes, AA now? Exactly.
    Well I don't what MU was supposed to do with this cap space. I'm optimistic.

    Jamario and AP had solid careers. Garbo would've if not for injuries. And I'm sure AA will find a team.
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    Any tape on this Buyck guy? Lowry does plat better when he knows its his team last season proved as much start of season pre injury Lowry as out of shape as he was guy was a beast, and Post Calderon trade injured out of shape Lowry had a good finish to the season.

    If you dont know hidden talent then you dont know Buyck!

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    Anybody remember when Derrick Martin was our best Back-up? Pretty sure there was a stretch where we went 5-6 games with him Starting and actually did pretty well. I'm not too worried about the PG spot.
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    As a Marquette fan, Ive known Buycks for quite a while now. Thrilled he's on the roster. He's a shoot first guy who played SG at Marquette. I don't know how much better than Stone he'll be though

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    Quote magoon wrote: View Post
    Creates money room while we don't have him on the books. Basically it's a maneuvering thing; if we need the space for a trade, we have it, and then we pick up Kyle's option at the last minute.
    You've got it backwards.

    The full salary counts towards the cap number.

    Only if he is waived does the payroll decrease.
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    I really like this signing. We now have our 2 backup PG's. A defensive specialist who can guard 3 positions (Stone) and an efficient scorer who can do it all over the court (from 3's to drives). They are both young (24) and entering their physical prime. Both are hungry to show what they have, but won't challenge Lowry for the starter gig, letting him play with confidence.

    Everyone was drooling over Schroeder before the draft, and Buycks did even better than Schroeder, in a tougher league in Europe. Remember last time we signed a successful PG from Europe? It was this guy named Jose Calderon, and he turned out pretty damn well. Being the MVP of the French A League is nothing to sniff at. Ujiri's advanced scouting and analytics are on full display with these signings. Diamonds in the rough, since right now we can't afford diamonds from the store.
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    Quote TheGloveinRapsUniform wrote: View Post
    hahaha exactly what i said, well, sort of. not as graphic tho.
    where are jamario moon, garbo, ukic, solomon, AP, Forbes, AA now? Exactly.
    I don't know how anyone can put Garbo and AP on the same list as Ukic, Solomon and Forbes, while actually trying to make a point.

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    Quote Primer wrote: View Post
    I really like this signing. We now have our 2 backup PG's. A defensive specialist who can guard 3 positions (Stone) and an efficient scorer who can do it all over the court (from 3's to drives). They are both young (24) and entering their physical prime. Both are hungry to show what they have, but won't challenge Lowry for the starter gig, letting him play with confidence.

    Everyone was drooling over Schroeder before the draft, and Buycks did even better than Schroeder, in a tougher league in Europe. Remember last time we signed a successful PG from Europe? It was this guy named Jose Calderon, and he turned out pretty damn well. Being the MVP of the French A League is nothing to sniff at. Ujiri's advanced scouting and analytics are on full display with these signings. Diamonds in the rough, since right now we can't afford diamonds from the store.
    Schroeder is 19 and Buycks is 24.
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    Quote Primer wrote: View Post
    I really like this signing. We now have our 2 backup PG's. A defensive specialist who can guard 3 positions (Stone) and an efficient scorer who can do it all over the court (from 3's to drives). They are both young (24) and entering their physical prime. Both are hungry to show what they have, but won't challenge Lowry for the starter gig, letting him play with confidence.

    Everyone was drooling over Schroeder before the draft, and Buycks did even better than Schroeder, in a tougher league in Europe. Remember last time we signed a successful PG from Europe? It was this guy named Jose Calderon, and he turned out pretty damn well. Being the MVP of the French A League is nothing to sniff at. Ujiri's advanced scouting and analytics are on full display with these signings. Diamonds in the rough, since right now we can't afford diamonds from the store.
    Is the comment about being an efficient scorer based on what he did in the summer league only or icluding what he did in Europe? Just curious because I could only find his stats from summer league where he did score efficiently and kept his turn overs down, but it's still just summer league. Also, I saw somewhere that he averaged 2.5 assists a game. That's not too good, for a PG, but I guess as long as he's coming off the bench it doesn't hurt the team too much. If Lowry gets injured for any duration of time though things could get ugly.

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    Anybody remember when Derrick Martin was our best Back-up? Pretty sure there was a stretch where we went 5-6 games with him Starting and actually did pretty well. I'm not too worried about the PG spot.
    Joey, its Darrick, not Derrick.

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