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    Jennings wants 12 Mil..

    Now imagine Derozan was in this situation... If Jennings signs for 12 Mil, dont you think Derozan has a right to ask for the same amount? Thank goodness he was extended earlier and for cheaper!
    Jesus. That article is right.. if he actually gets 12 mil, he should write a book.
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    In my opinion what Jennings wants and what the market will offer are different. I'd be shocked if a team offers more than 8 or 9 mill and so he will have the choice to take less or not get paid at all.

    Speaking of DeRozan, him and Jennings are pretty close.

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    In my opinion what Jennings wants and what the market will offer are different. I'd be shocked if a team offers more than 8 or 9 mill and so he will have the choice to take less or not get paid at all.

    Speaking of DeRozan, him and Jennings are pretty close.
    right now Jennings is worth Dragic money... 4 years 28 - 30 million tops. The key is if you want to pay for his potential.

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    Isnt this insane? Most of us here agree Jennings isnt worth more than 8 MIL. How does one believe shooting less than 40% FG make them worth 50% more than any reasonable person would pay?
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    Jennings wants 12 Mil..

    Now imagine Derozan was in this situation... If Jennings signs for 12 Mil, dont you think Derozan has a right to ask for the same amount? Thank goodness he was extended earlier and for cheaper!

    How many offers did Jennings get for his asking price?

    He can ask for whatever he wants but it doesn't mean he will get it.

    There has to be a team willing to offer the money and it appeared there was not.
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    I think it's fair to say that Jennings and Lowry our both in that second tier of point guards. I basically think both players cancel each other. Jennings only has the edge cause he happens to be 4 years younger. This move wouldn't surprise me. It's a way to get younger and not get worse

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    Honestly, I wouldn't S&T DeMar for Jennings unless Milwaukee was feeling particularly spendy (like, John Henson and a first-rounder). Their game is basically about the same but DeMar is in better shape and has much more character.

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    Matt52 read the article. He is "demanding" 12 Mil. He is willing to sit tight until he gets what he wants. S&T probably wont happen. Is it possible he starts the season without a contract?
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    Matt52 read the article. He is "demanding" 12 Mil. He is willing to sit tight until he gets what he wants. S&T probably wont happen. Is it possible he starts the season without a contract?
    If he doesn't re-negotiate he'll have to settle for the qualifying offer of under 5mil. I think someone will pay close to 40 mil over 4 years based on pure potential. Would a s&t for Caldwell-Pope and Villenueva work?

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    If he doesn't re-negotiate he'll have to settle for the qualifying offer of under 5mil. I think someone will pay close to 40 mil over 4 years based on pure potential. Would a s&t for Caldwell-Pope and Villenueva work?
    Milwaukee isn't tanking or rebuilding, and that's definitely a rebuilding deal for them. I think the Bucks say no to that.

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    right now Jennings is worth Dragic money... 4 years 28 - 30 million tops. The key is if you want to pay for his potential.
    Considering how reasonable that sounds, I'd add another $1.5 per season.

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    Quote enlightenment wrote: View Post
    Matt52 read the article. He is "demanding" 12 Mil. He is willing to sit tight until he gets what he wants. S&T probably wont happen. Is it possible he starts the season without a contract?
    I read the article and others on HoopsHype.com like it such as:


    Those players signed deals in the range of four years and $41-48 million. But he is not going to find that money on the current free-agent market, and the Bucks are obviously reluctant to give Jennings that kind of a contract.

    http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/stor...medium=twitter

    Of course he can demand all he wants. If the Bucks cave and give it to him, that is the only way he gets it though.


    What he should do is buy a $50M insurance policy and sign the QO from Milwaukee. He can go where ever he chooses next season as an UFA without the fear of a 'reasonable' offer being matched.

    But keep in mind Dallas and Atlanta were both teams with lots of cap space and a possible need at PG and both teams chose to not sign him or offer him a contract for what he was asking.
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    LAS VEGAS – The Suns have put Kendall Marshall on the trade block in hopes of getting some return on the 2012 lottery pick, several league executives told NBA.com, with Marshall at No. 3 on the depth chart at point guard at moving to upgrade the position.

    “He’s out there,” said a member of one personnel department, meaning Marshall is available.

    “They’re trying to attach him to pretty much any deal that comes up,” another executive said here at summer league. “If you want to talk about any of their players, they include him. He’s basically the price of admission to any trade right now.”

    http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2013/0...-on-the-block/
    Kendall Marshall is out there.

    I would rather Stone though to be honest. Defense. Defense. Defense.
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    Quote enlightenment wrote: View Post
    Jennings wants 12 Mil..

    Now imagine Derozan was in this situation... If Jennings signs for 12 Mil, dont you think Derozan has a right to ask for the same amount? Thank goodness he was extended earlier and for cheaper!
    Whether Jennings gets 12 mil or not, and whether Derozan is worth the same scale as Jennings or not, does not change that the Raptors lost options in regards to Derozan and his contract they would have had this offseason. The only way it was worth extending Demar "earlier for cheaper" is if his cost of production is on par with or exceeds his actually output.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Kendall Marshall is out there.

    I would rather Stone though to be honest. Defense. Defense. Defense.
    Marshal has been shooting the ball absolutely horrendously. I'd rather them look elsewhere personally. This team needs a PG who can facilitate but also knock down shots when defenses back off (Calderon's offense defined in a nutshell).

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    Yeah, I read that on the train this morning. The Pistons have some potentially nice young talent but I don't see how it all fits together...

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    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mmf425a

    Detroit
    Monroe/Drummond/Kravtsov
    JSmith/Mitchell/ Jerebko
    Maggette/Singler/Datome
    Knight/Stuckey/Lee
    Jennings/Billups/Bynum

    Milwaukee
    Sanders/Udoh/Ayon
    Henson/Villeneuva/Gooden
    Ilyasova/Delfino/Daniels
    Mayo/Antetokounmpo
    Dragic/Ridnour/Smith

    Pheonix
    Gortat/Len/Frye
    Scola/Morris/Morris
    Butler/Beasley/Tucker
    Caldwell-Pope/Brown/Goodwin
    Bledsoe/Marshall

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    I find it funny that the last two "point guards" the Pistons drafted are now in a battle for the starting SG roll. Hate to say it but I knew Knight wasn't a real PG when we were having that Knight vs. Walker debate a few years back.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Marshal has been shooting the ball absolutely horrendously. I'd rather them look elsewhere personally. This team needs a PG who can facilitate but also knock down shots when defenses back off (Calderon's offense defined in a nutshell).



    Yeah, I read that on the train this morning. The Pistons have some potentially nice young talent but I don't see how it all fits together...
    You could develop migraines trying to make sense of Dumars' moves. From drafting Darko, moving Billups to get Iverson, the Charlie V and Ben Gordon contracts, to some of his recent draft picks, he makes BC look like a genius.

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