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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Fred jones has started something similar: playerpopulation.com
    So this is where they get it done.

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    Default Igoudala?

    http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...ion-To-Opt-Out

    Looks like Iggy is hitting the market. What would it take to bring him here and pair him up with Gay? Is this something you would want to see or is it more of a lateral move from the DeRozan/Gay pairing? Clearly we lack the ability to sign him out right, so we'd need to clear some space through trades/ amnesty before we could make a run at AI.

    Discuss.

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    To have a shot at signing him outright, the Raptors would need to clear about $23M in salary.

    To have a shot at signing him via sign and trade, the Raptors would need to send Denver at least $11M in salary (assumption Igoudala signs for $13Mper), Denver would have to agree, and Igoudala would have to agree. Good timing from Coon's latest chat:


    Kris

    Could you explain the new rules for Sign and Trades and how they differ from the old CBA?

    Larry Coon

    Sure. The key points are as follows:

    * The player must have finished the preceding season with the team doing the sign-and-trade. No more doing a sign-and-trade with players who have been out of the league.

    * A sign-and-trade can only be done during the offseason.

    * A team cannot receive a player who is signed-and-traded if they finish the transaction above the apron, which is the point $4 million over the tax line (about $75.6 million this summer). So a team over the apron can’t do a sign-and-trade unless they dump enough salary in the transaction to get under. A team under the apron can’t add salary in a sign-and-trade that takes them over.

    * A team can’t receive a signed-and-traded player if they’ve used the taxpayer mid-level exception.

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-salary...rry-coon-61413

    Supposedly Detroit, Atlanta, Houston/Dallas (strike out on CP3 and D12) all have interest and have the ability to sign him unrestricted. Plus Denver has his Bird Rights.

    I think Gay and AI on the wing would be a great balance assuming both return to previous season forms on 3's (and if they both return to 39% they would be deadly).

    I do not think it has any chance of happening though.
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    Lateral movement. They both need the ball and doesn't solve the spacing issue.

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    Iguodala brings a lot to the table, scoring isn't necessarily one of them. I can only imagine how many fast break opportunities we would have with Lowry, Gay and Iggy ball hawking .... That's a pretty explosive line up with 2 ball handlers and Gay, who can create his own shot too.

    I dont think it'll happen though ... But I'm wishing anyway.

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    With everything that's happened to them so far, Denver would probably go on tank mode. It seems like the most sensible thing to do. If that's the case, a 3 or 4 team trade would be necessary if Toronto is interested in Igoudala. Outright signing is impossible.
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    Quote Eric Akshinthala wrote: View Post
    With everything that's happened to them so far, Denver would probably go on tank mode. It seems like the most sensible thing to do. If that's the case, a 3 or 4 team trade would be necessary if Toronto is interested in Igoudala. Outright signing is impossible.
    You want Denver to go into tank mode after winning 57 games?

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    Default I want Eric Bledsoe!

    A likely hurdle is Bledsoe. A league source said that when the two teams were discussing a proposed deal in February around the trade deadline, talks broke down, at least in part, because the Clippers didn't want to part ways with Bledsoe. It's widely believed that one of the key reasons the Clippers haven't wanted to part with Bledsoe is because they view him as too valuable if Chris Paul signs with another team. However, a league source told the Globe that if Rivers did leave to coach the Clippers, "I guarantee that Chris Paul re-signs" with the Clippers. "I guarantee it," the source continued. Boston Globe
    Looks like Bawhston is gonna blow it up!

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    They also got knocked out in the first round, lost their gm, their coach, and now their locker room guy... so yes, tanking is definitely a possibility.
    "We only have one rule on this team. What is that rule? E.L.E. That's right's, E.L.E, and what does E.L.E. stand for? EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY. Right there up on the wall, because this isn't just a basketball team, this is a lifestyle. ~ Jackie Moon

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    Default The MILL - Rumours, Speculation, and Trades OH MY! - NBA DRAFT OFF SEASON EDITION

    Since everytime a name comes up it will like involve some jack ass saying things like "OMG I want Eric Bledsoe", I decided to create this dumping ground.


    ALSO KEEP IT RAPTORS SPECIFIC....or else!

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    Quote thead wrote: View Post
    Since everytime a name comes up it will like involve some jack ass saying things like "OMG I want Eric Bledsoe", I decided to create this dumping ground.


    ALSO KEEP IT RAPTORS SPECIFIC....or else!
    HAHA i just clicked on that iggy thread to say exactly this, and you just merged it, lol.

    on iggy nope, def not gonna be a raptor. no need for him.

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    Free Agents w/ Options:

    ET: Early Termination Option
    P: Player Option
    T: Team Option

    source: bref.com

    of course iggy already opted out at this point

    Code:
    Andre Iguodala		DEN	$16,154,750	ET
    Paul Pierce		BOS	$15,333,334	P
    Emeka Okafor		WAS	$14,487,500	ET
    Ben Gordon		CHA	$13,200,000	P
    Hedo Turkoglu		ORL	$12,000,000	ET
    Monta Ellis		MIL	$11,000,000	ET
    Andrei Kirilenko	MIN	$10,219,420	P
    Shawn Marion		DAL	$9,316,796	ET
    Andris Biedrins		GSW	$9,000,000	ET
    Trevor Ariza		WAS	$7,727,280	P
    Metta World Peace	LAL	$7,727,280	P
    Marvin Williams		UTA	$7,500,000	ET
    Francisco Garcia	HOU	$6,400,000	T
    Boris Diaw		SAS	$4,702,500	P
    Marreese Speights	CLE	$4,515,000	P
    O.J. Mayo		DAL	$4,200,900	P
    Mario Chalmers		MIA	$4,000,000	T
    Carl Landry		GSW	$4,000,000	P
    Brandon Rush		GSW	$4,000,000	P
    Ray Allen		MIA	$3,229,050	P
    Jerryd Bayless		MEM	$3,135,000	P
    Kwame Brown		PHI	$2,945,901	P
    J.R. Smith		NYK	$2,932,742	P
    Dante Cunningham	MIN	$2,180,000	T
    John Lucas		TOR	$1,567,500	T
    Jodie Meeks		LAL	$1,550,000	T
    James Jones		MIA	$1,500,000	P
    Rashard Lewis		MIA	$1,399,507	P
    Patrick Mills		SAS	$1,133,950	P

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    Free Agents
    (note may contain errors, cut list at ~$500k)
    source bref.com

    Code:
    A.J. Price	WAS	$885,120
    Al Jefferson	UTA	$15,000,000
    Alan Anderson	TOR	$885,120
    Al-Farouq Aminu	NOH	$2,947,800
    Andray Blatche	BRK	$1,146,337
    Andrew Bynum	PHI	$16,889,000
    Antawn Jamison	LAL	$1,352,181
    Anthony Morrow	DAL	$4,000,000
    Anthony TolliverATL	$915,852
    Austin Daye	MEM	$2,958,077
    Beno Udrih	ORL	$7,372,200
    Brad Miller	PHO	$848,000
    Brandan Wright	DAL	$992,680
    Brandon JenningsMIL	$3,179,493
    Brandon Roy	MIN	$5,100,000
    Byron Mullens	CHA	$2,253,062
    Cartier Martin	WAS	$915,852
    Charles Jenkins	PHI	$762,195
    Chase Budinger	MIN	$885,120
    Chauncey BillupsLAC	$4,000,000
    Chris Andersen	MIA	$540,872
    Chris Kaman	DAL	$8,000,000
    Chris Paul	LAC	$17,779,458
    Chris Wilcox	BOS	$1,352,181
    Christian EyengaORL	$1,174,080
    Cole Aldrich	SAC	$2,445,480
    Corey Brewer	DEN	$3,243,000
    Corey Maggette	DET	$10,924,138
    D.J. Augustin	IND	$3,500,000
    Daequan Cook	CHI	$595,608
    Dahntay Jones	ATL	$2,900,000
    Damien Wilkins	PHI	$1,223,166
    Daniel Gibson	CLE	$4,792,332
    Darius Morris	LAL	$962,195
    Darren Collison	DAL	$2,319,344
    David West	IND	$10,000,000
    DeJuan Blair	SAS	$1,054,000
    Delonte West	DAL	$1,223,166
    DeMarre Carroll	UTA	$885,120
    Derek Fisher	HOU	$644,005
    DeSagana Diop	CHA	$7,372,200
    Devin Ebanks	LAL	$1,054,389
    Devin Harris	ATL	$8,500,000
    Dexter Pittman	MEM	$854,389
    Dominic McGuire	TOR	$992,680
    Dominique Jones	DAL	$1,276,560
    Dorell Wright	PHI	$4,106,000
    Dwight Howard	LAL	$19,536,360
    Earl Clark	LAL	$1,240,000
    Earl Watson	UTA	$2,300,000
    Elliot Williams	POR	$1,442,880
    Elton Brand	DAL	$2,100,500
    Eric Maynor	POR	$2,338,721
    Garrett Temple	WAS	$572,943
    Gary Forbes	HOU	$1,500,000
    Gary Neal	SAS	$854,389
    Gerald HendersonCHA	$3,101,327
    Hakim Warrick	ORL	$4,000,000
    Ivan Johnson	ATL	$962,195
    J.J. Hickson	POR	$4,000,000
    J.J. Redick	MIL	$6,190,000
    JaJuan Johnson	HOU	$1,089,240
    Jamaal Tinsley	UTA	$1,352,181
    James Anderson	HOU	$741,176
    James Johnson	SAC	$2,812,006
    James Jones	MIA	$1,757,161
    Jared Jeffries	POR	$1,475,106
    Jarrett Jack	GSW	$5,400,000
    Jason Collins	WAS	$1,352,181
    Jason Maxiell	DET	$5,000,000
    Jeff PendergraphIND	$1,500,000
    Jeff Teague	ATL	$2,433,077
    Jeremy Pargo	CLE	$1,000,000
    Jermaine O'Neal	PHO	$1,352,181
    Jerry StackhouseBRK	$1,352,181
    Joel Przybilla	MIL	$1,352,181
    Johan Petro	ATL	$3,500,000
    Jon Brockman	HOU	$1,000,000
    Jon Leuer	CLE	$762,195
    Jordan Farmar	ATL	$1,500,000
    Jordan Williams	ATL	$762,195
    Jose Calderon	DET	$11,046,591
    Josh McRoberts	CHA	$3,135,000
    Josh Selby	CLE	$762,195
    Josh Smith	ATL	$13,200,000
    Julyan Stone	DEN	$762,195
    Justin Harper	ORL	$762,195
    Keith Bogans	BRK	$1,229,255
    Kelenna AzubuikeCLE	$1,069,509
    Kevin Martin	OKC	$12,439,675
    Kurt Thomas	NYK	$1,352,181
    Kyle Korver	ATL	$5,000,000
    Lamar Odom	LAC	$8,200,000
    Lazar Hayward	HOU	$1,174,080
    Leandro Barbosa	WAS	$1,229,255
    Louis Amundson	MIN	$1,069,509
    Luke Babbitt	POR	$1,892,280
    Luke Walton	CLE	$6,091,363
    Manu Ginobili	SAS	$14,107,491
    Marco Belinelli	CHI	$1,957,000
    Marquis Daniels	MIL	$1,229,255
    Martell Webster	WAS	$1,750,000
    Matt Barnes	LAC	$1,229,255
    Matt Carroll	NOH	$3,300,000
    Mickael Pietrus	TOR	$1,005,097
    Mike Dunleavy	MIL	$3,750,000
    Mike James	DAL	$636,320
    Mo Williams	UTA	$8,500,000
    Nate Robinson	CHI	$1,146,337
    Nazr Mohammed	CHI	$1,352,181
    Nick Young	PHI	$5,600,000
    Nikola Pekovic	MIN	$4,837,200
    Nolan Smith	POR	$1,365,720
    Omri Casspi	CLE	$2,277,306
    Paul Millsap	UTA	$8,603,633
    Raja Bell	UTA	$3,480,000
    Randy Foye	UTA	$2,500,000
    Rashard Lewis	NOH	$13,765,000
    Rasheed Wallace	NYK	$1,352,181
    Reggie Williams	CHA	$2,612,500
    Renaldo Balkman	NYK	$1,675,000
    Richard HamiltonDET	$6,069,767
    Rodrigue BeauboisDAL	$2,227,333
    Roger Mason	NOH	$1,223,166
    Ronnie Brewer	ORL	$1,069,509
    Ronnie Price	POR	$1,146,337
    Ronny Turiaf	LAC	$1,146,337
    Royal Ivey	PHI	$1,223,166
    Ryan Hollins	LAC	$1,069,509
    Samuel DalembertMIL	$6,698,565
    Sebastian TelfairTOR	$1,567,500
    Shaun LivingstonCLE	$1,100,849
    Shawne Williams	POR	$2,600,000
    Stephen Jackson	SAS	$10,059,750
    Tiago Splitter	SAS	$3,944,000
    Timofey Mozgov	DEN	$3,140,429
    Toney Douglas	SAC	$2,067,880
    Tony Allen	MEM	$3,300,000
    Trey Thompkins	LAC	$762,195
    Tyler HansbroughIND	$3,055,259
    Tyreke Evans	SAC	$5,251,825
    Vladimir RadmanovicCHI	$1,352,181
    Wayne Ellington	CLE	$2,083,042
    Wesley Johnson	PHO	$4,285,560
    Will Bynum	DET	$3,250,000
    Xavier Henry	NOH	$2,323,200
    Zaza Pachulia	ATL	$5,248,750
    Last edited by phez; Sat Jun 15th, 2013 at 06:41 PM.

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    Tyler Hansbrough for 3rd big!
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    OJ Mayo, could help space the floor for us...when he's not high. Seems like a buy low situation with him.

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    Report: Pete D'Alessandro (Ujiri's right hand man in Denver) offered the Kings GM position. I was hoping he would come to the Raptors but that might have been poaching. They may have something to talk about. However, knowing each other's thinking I wonder if a close and recent working relationship is a positive to getting a deal done...or negative.

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    Quote Soft Euro wrote: View Post
    You want Denver to go into tank mode after winning 57 games?
    It's not what I want but what I think will happen. After winning 57 games, it's absolutely senseless to let Ujiri, Karl and Igoudala go, but they have.
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    Quote ezz_bee wrote: View Post
    They also got knocked out in the first round, lost their gm, their coach, and now their locker room guy... so yes, tanking is definitely a possibility.
    No.

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    Quote Eric Akshinthala wrote: View Post
    It's not what I want but what I think will happen. After winning 57 games, it's absolutely senseless to let Ujiri, Karl and Igoudala go, but they have.
    They didn't let Iguodala go, he opted out and they still might resign him. But Iguodala isn't LeBron and Denver isn't Cleveland. His departure will make but a small dent. The other two guys weren't playing, so I just don't know why the hell that would lead to tanking. They are still a 50 win team with what they got. Sometimes you say the weirdest things.

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    Quote Michel G wrote: View Post
    No.
    ummmmmm............yes

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