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    Default Nobody Shoot Me...BUT...

    Miami may be shopping Chris Bosh.

    I'M JUST SAYING...

    http://tracking.si.com/2013/06/09/bo...is-bosh-trade/

    ...putting him back in his natural 4 spot could do wonders...

    ...okay everyone go about your day

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    Go end yourself.

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    go end yourself.
    hahahahahha

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    I don't see what the Bobcats have to offer that the Heat would take. Very small chance that they'll trade Bosh after winning another title.

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    Quote Soft Euro wrote: View Post
    I don't see what the Bobcats have to offer that the Heat would take.
    The #4 pick in this years draft. And the money Saving. Charlotte could theoretically take on Boshs entire contract while only sending back the pick. Thats gotta look pretty enticing, especially if it means they can draft someone like Noel or Alex Len to replace him.


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    Very small chance that they'll trade Bosh after winning another title.
    And I'm not too sure how strongly Miami feels about Bosh' contributions to their Champtionship Run. He basically struggled the entire playoffs. Not to mention, of the Big 3, he's the easiest to replace, and upgrade.
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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    And I'm not too sure how strongly Miami feels about Bosh' contributions to their Champtionship Run. He basically struggled the entire playoffs. Not to mention, of the Big 3, he's the easiest to replace, and upgrade.
    Actually, Wade is the easiest to replace and upgrade, were it not for the fact that he's obviously untradeable due to sentimental reasons.

    Bosh is basically the lynchpin to Miami's defensive scheme because he's so fast. He scored 0 points in game 7? Big deal, he held Danny Green to one lousy three. Bosh is very, very hard to replace. Miami isn't shopping Chris Bosh; Charlotte is doing what they do best, which is publicly begging.

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    Actually, Wade is the easiest to replace and upgrade, were it not for the fact that he's obviously untradeable due to sentimental reasons.

    Bosh is basically the lynchpin to Miami's defensive scheme because he's so fast. He scored 0 points in game 7? Big deal, he held Danny Green to one lousy three. Bosh is very, very hard to replace. Miami isn't shopping Chris Bosh; Charlotte is doing what they do best, which is publicly begging.
    Seems I didn't need to post...

    Btw, did anyone already acknowledge that Bosh was pretty much right before game 6 when he said Green wouldn't be open? Cocky, but didn't the last threepoint attempt in that game by Green get blocked by Bosh?

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    Quote Soft Euro wrote: View Post
    Seems I didn't need to post...

    Btw, did anyone already acknowledge that Bosh was pretty much right before game 6 when he said Green wouldn't be open? Cocky, but didn't the last threepoint attempt in that game by Green get blocked by Bosh?
    He did not get BLOCKED, HE GOT FOULED! and no call. Bosh was shocked when there was no call. His face was like "Oh Crap, what did I just do?" then the no call "Wow, Did I really get away with that?"

    Wasn't an honest call!

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    Quote Soft Euro wrote: View Post
    Seems I didn't need to post...

    Btw, did anyone already acknowledge that Bosh was pretty much right before game 6 when he said Green wouldn't be open? Cocky, but didn't the last threepoint attempt in that game by Green get blocked by Bosh?
    Bosh practically bull-dozed into green. Lucky, there was no call
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    Actually, Wade is the easiest to replace and upgrade, were it not for the fact that he's obviously untradeable due to sentimental reasons.

    Bosh is basically the lynchpin to Miami's defensive scheme because he's so fast. He scored 0 points in game 7? Big deal, he held Danny Green to one lousy three. Bosh is very, very hard to replace. Miami isn't shopping Chris Bosh; Charlotte is doing what they do best, which is publicly begging.
    Bosh got beaten up badly in the playoffs. He really gotten beating up all season by opposing bigs. (he gave up a PER of 17.1 to opposing bigs vs a 15 average, and was +1 defensively on/off) He came up with some big plays late in the final two games to his credit, but he was one of the reasons the team had so much difficulty in the final two series. Teams will start exploiting that extensively next season if the Heat can't add more size and move Bosh to PF regularily.

    Personally I think Bosh is the easiest of the big 3 too replace, assuming Wade can ever be healthy again. There are plenty of bigs who do what he does. Not as efficiently on offense ofcourse, but definetely on defense, in the post and on the boards.

    As for his contribution on D, there was a recent Zach Lowe article that describes Bosh's contribution. Basically, the need him because of the way they play D, but they could play a much easier or traditional form D if they replaced him.

    itís fair to wonder if the Heat might be better off swapping Bosh for a sub-elite facsimile and searching for puzzle piece role players on the cheap. Guys like Paul Millsap, Al Horford, David West, and Brandon Bass can hit midrange jumpers at elite rates for a fraction of Boshís annual salary. And if the Heat could somehow parlay Bosh (or Wade, really the more tradable guy from Miamiís theoretical perspective) into a legit rim protector and rebounder, they might be able to dial back the frantic nature of their hyper-aggressive defense a bit. That defense works very well on balance. The Heat just repeated as champions, and their flying athleticism smothered San Antonioís precision passing attack in Miamiís four championship wins.

    But that defense is also exhausting. The Heat in all three of their playoff runs have shown off-and-on signs of serious slippage in executing that defense ó against Dallas in 2011, Boston last season, and both the Pacers and Spurs this season. Those teams are all very good, but Indiana this season was a mediocre offensive team, and the 2011-12 Celtics were one of the half-dozen worst scoring teams in the league. All of those teams deserve credit for periodically slicing up Miamiís high-risk defense, but the film shows a lot of very basic errors an amped-up Miami team doesnít typically make ó fatal ball-watching, miscommunication, lazy rotations, and traps that lack the Heatís normal oomph. James is 28, Bosh is 29, and Wade is 31 with annual late-season injury issues. Finding a way to dial back the hyperactivity might be a good idea, and adding a more traditional paint presence would allow them to do that.
    Everything will be fine as long as the worldís best player is in his prime, and that half-sentence works as both a defense for keeping the team together and a potential argument for at least thinking about trading Wade or Bosh as a way of maximizing available salary. If LeBron is this good, do they need two other stars ó especially when the reliance on a nontraditional big man, Bosh, has shaped the helter-skelter style in which the Heat play defense?
    Miami's D is good (9th overall) but not great, and will likely remain that way if Bosh is stuck at the C. Personally I believe everything is derived from how amazing Lebron is, not only offensively but defensively. He is simply so intelligent and verstatile. Strong and quick. How many players in this league can responsible for covering David West then Paul George? Can cover Tony Parker while offer rim protection from Tim Duncan and other bigs?


    All that said, Bosh on the Raps? Wrong direction as far as I'm concerned, but assuming a team thats not looking to tank - if it was Bargs + Derozan for Bosh? I'd say go for it. (not likely to happen ofcourse)

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    The #4 pick in this years draft. And the money Saving. Charlotte could theoretically take on Boshs entire contract while only sending back the pick. Thats gotta look pretty enticing, especially if it means they can draft someone like Noel or Alex Len to replace him.




    And I'm not too sure how strongly Miami feels about Bosh' contributions to their Champtionship Run. He basically struggled the entire playoffs. Not to mention, of the Big 3, he's the easiest to replace, and upgrade.
    I'm having a bit of a different opinion on his worth to the championship and I don't know if he'll be that easily replaced. I think Wade is the easiest to replace, but they'll never do it (I think). It will also be a very big gamble with little upside. Considering their results in the last years; they can't really improve, but they can go down and that will taint some careers.

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    The #4 pick in this years draft. And the money Saving. Charlotte could theoretically take on Boshs entire contract while only sending back the pick. Thats gotta look pretty enticing, especially if it means they can draft someone like Noel or Alex Len to replace him.




    And I'm not too sure how strongly Miami feels about Bosh' contributions to their Champtionship Run. He basically struggled the entire playoffs. Not to mention, of the Big 3, he's the easiest to replace, and upgrade.
    Because Noel or Len are anywhere near Bosh in terms of ability? Miami wouldn't trade both of those players for Bosh.

    If you listen to what Spolestra and the Heat have been saying for years, Bosh is a key component to what they do offensively and defensively. Basketball is more than just scoring. He's not the easiest to replace or upgrade because there are very few bigs in the league that are asked to do what the Heat ask him to do in their scheme.

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    Oh the potential incredible irony! Bosh is going to take his talent to...Charlotte? The dysfunctional jordan empire? Sure he's won two rings, but that might even things out. For one year

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    Wade and Bron personally asked owners to trade him as he's ruining their "cool" image.
    #FREE

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    Quote RandomGuy wrote: View Post
    Wade and Bron personally asked owners to trade him as he's ruining their "cool" image.
    Chris Bosh is the Urkel to thier RedMan and Methodman.

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    Just plain NO!

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    Bosh out, Howard in.

    not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6!!!

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    That was a block, stop crying.

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    Quote Letter N wrote: View Post
    That was a block, stop crying.
    Not crying, just stating the fact!

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    twenty million dollars

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