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    Quote Mr.Z wrote: View Post
    Also, drunkmunky, you're drunk. Blocking Matt means you're eliminating yourself from like 90% of the conversations lol
    I don't agree with anything he says besides the name of his twitter account. I'd prefer to optimize my time on RR and read 10% good content, rather than 90% crap IMO.

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    Quote drunkmunky wrote: View Post
    I don't agree with anything he says besides the name of his twitter account. I'd prefer to optimize my time on RR and read 10% good content, rather than 90% crap IMO.
    Half the fun of being a part of these forums is arguing with the people who disagree with you though lol whatever floats your boat though I guess

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    I don't think DeRozan has improved his 3pt shooting very much to this point, no. However, I am hoping that it has become apparent to him (and Gay, on another note) that it is the most important facet of his (offensive) game to improve right now, and that he'll apply his much-praised work ethic in that area.

    DD's shooting form is not fundamentally broken, so I think that with practice he should be able to improve.

    “On the court just getting my range to where I get more comfortable, where it feels like a 15-footer,” DeRozan said. “Extending my range even if it means shooting damn near 30 feet, just getting comfortable shooting farther away, feeling like I shot a 15-footer. Being able to have that same exact feeling I have when I’m shooting that mid-range. Getting a lot stronger so I’m able to shoot the shots the same way from the three-point range.” - Demar Derozan

    Also,

    “When Indiana and Miami were playing, I was talking to Casey,” DeRozan said. “We were talking about defence. That’s how we’ve got to take each game, each quarter, each possession. It’s going to be tough, grind, hard-fought defence. That’s how we’re going to have to play.”


    My idea is he should be given half a season, if he doesn't pull through with these commitments then trade the dude. Before it's too late.

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    Dwayne Wade has never been a good 3pt shooter, averaging 30% prior to lebron and even less after his arrival. Do you want to tell us how terrible Wade is? But we won't, because Wade was a volume shooter and the sheer volume more than made up for shit %, right? And it doesn't even matter now because he has Lebron, Allen, Miller, etc to all take over his 3pt shooting numbers. All he has to do is dunk the ball. But no, derozan isn't allowed to dunk the ball. He has to score using 3s.

    Dwayne Wade got all of 344 rebounds for the season, whereas Derozan grabbed 320. Should Wade also be trying to grab balls away Lebron, Haslem, etc, just as Derozan should grab rebounds away from JV, Amir, Gay, etc?

    You want DD to improve his stats in a system that wasn't designed to improve his stats, aka, the Casey give-ball-to-gay-and-iso system.

    And in before you start throwing those stupid PER stats again.

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    We never lost games this season because Gay and Demar overlap we lost ga,es because the team was shit whenever they were on the bench. Theres a lot of talk about these guys not being able to co exist, but I dont see it.... you want 3 point shooting just get some role players to do that dont trade away the best 1-2 punch we can have for a good 4 years...

    Not all good/great teams have 3 point weapons, teams that rely on that shot often crumble see the New York Knicks and the o7 Orlando Magic... If they get traded and broken up its a shame cause I think an entire season of Rudy and DeMar could be something really special, not a lot of teams have 2 players on the wings that demand double teams.

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    Almost every player has a weak point and 3 point shooting is Demars. His other abilities far outweigh his lack of a good 3 point shot.

    I believe though that the back court should have a good balance of 3 point shooting. Toronto lacks in this area and if I had to trade someone to strengthen the 3 point shooting, it would be Demar.
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    I also hope we don't trade him along with Bargs for Bledsoe. I would much rather amnesty Bargs than ship him out with Derozan for EB. It free's up a ton of cap space but it sends us back 100 yards from being any bit closer to where we are trying to go.

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    Quote Mr.Z wrote: View Post
    “On the court just getting my range to where I get more comfortable, where it feels like a 15-footer,” DeRozan said. “Extending my range even if it means shooting damn near 30 feet, just getting comfortable shooting farther away, feeling like I shot a 15-footer. Being able to have that same exact feeling I have when I’m shooting that mid-range. Getting a lot stronger so I’m able to shoot the shots the same way from the three-point range.” - Demar Derozan

    Also,

    “When Indiana and Miami were playing, I was talking to Casey,” DeRozan said. “We were talking about defence. That’s how we’ve got to take each game, each quarter, each possession. It’s going to be tough, grind, hard-fought defence. That’s how we’re going to have to play.”


    My idea is he should be given half a season, if he doesn't pull through with these commitments then trade the dude. Before it's too late.
    That's pretty much where I am at this point.

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    Dwayne Wade has never been a good 3pt shooter, averaging 30% prior to lebron and even less after his arrival. Do you want to tell us how terrible Wade is? But we won't, because Wade was a volume shooter and the sheer volume more than made up for shit %, right? And it doesn't even matter now because he has Lebron, Allen, Miller, etc to all take over his 3pt shooting numbers. All he has to do is dunk the ball. But no, derozan isn't allowed to dunk the ball. He has to score using 3s.

    Dwayne Wade got all of 344 rebounds for the season, whereas Derozan grabbed 320. Should Wade also be trying to grab balls away Lebron, Haslem, etc, just as Derozan should grab rebounds away from JV, Amir, Gay, etc?

    You want DD to improve his stats in a system that wasn't designed to improve his stats, aka, the Casey give-ball-to-gay-and-iso system.

    And in before you start throwing those stupid PER stats again.

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    I also hope we don't trade him along with Bargs for Bledsoe. I would much rather amnesty Bargs than ship him out with Derozan for EB. It free's up a ton of cap space but it sends us back 100 yards from being any bit closer to where we are trying to go.
    I actually read on hoopshype rumours page that the clips are more interested in Bargs than Demar... but that a deal was still unlikely.
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    No one tell any of this to the Clippers...

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    Quote Red and White wrote: View Post
    No one tell any of this to the Clippers...
    Seems like they already know.

    Not hard to tell the delusioned youth on the forums. The awakening is always enlightening though.

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