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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    I generally agree with what you're saying, as long as you keep endorsement money out of it. You can't really say he'll make more counting endorsements, because he'd have surely have better endorsement/sponsorship deals in LA.
    Houston has a much, much bigger presence in the Chinese market than L.A. does thanks to all those years of Yao Ming. Dwight will do just fine getting endorsements in Houston.

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    Right.....but as Joey said, championships will save him...and so even then, if he stayed in LA, which would probably have been better for his image, then won in LA, his star would shoot back up faster and higher than anywhere else.
    He has given himself more opportunity to win in Houston I think given Kobe's age/injury, coaching, and supporting cast.
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    As long as he doesn't care too much about his image and other bs he doesn't need to save himself or be saved.

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    With Millsap signing in Atlanta, all I can think is will Al Horford ever get to play his natural PF position?
    he would if he got traded to the raps

    with the hawks tanking maybe he's attainable -- if we could snag him and a player like Rondo (while retaining Gay/JV) we would be contenders instead of pretenders

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    If Dwight returns to form and the Rockets win a championship or two, his trials and tribulations of the recent past will be water under the bridge. All he has to do is win baby, just win. Sports clichés are handy at times.

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    Well two of my fav fa's are off the board:

    Aminu $3.7m 1 yr
    Wright $6m 2 yrs
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    So Aminu signed a one year extension and next summer he will be a UFA. Don't lose hope yet Matt.

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    According to Woj, Josh Smith just signed with the Pistons:

    https://twitter.com/wojyahoonba/stat...89024310571009

    My guess is this means the Pistons wouldn't give up positive assets for Gay.

    It also means that the top wings (Iggy and Smith) are now off the market. Should open up the offers for Gay if Ujiri is considering moving him.

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    The Rockets were after him. I wonder why he picked the Pistons over playing with his childhood friend in Houston?

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    The Rockets were after him. I wonder why he picked the Pistons over playing with his childhood friend in Houston?
    Only way he went to the Rockets was if it was a sign and trade. Maybe Atlanta did not want to dance?

    Pistons were knocking on his door at 12:01 July 1st as well. He might have liked the attention.

    Either way, I don't care what the Pistons say about Smith/Monroe/Drummond playing together, it isn't going to work for more than a few minutes at a time.

    The only distance threat on that team now is Knight (and threat is used loosely) and KCP (who has never played an NBA game).
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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    The Rockets were after him. I wonder why he picked the Pistons over playing with his childhood friend in Houston?
    56 million over four years is why. The Rockets would not have paid him $14m/year.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    So Aminu signed a one year extension and next summer he will be a UFA. Don't lose hope yet Matt.
    Ah yes. The Raptor mantra:

    THERE IS ALWAYS NEXT YEAR.

    lol
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    Rudy Gay for Greg Monroe + Rodney Stuckey + 2014 2nd round pick?

    Raptors:
    Lowry/Stuckey/Stone
    Derozan/Ross
    Fields/Acy/Novak
    Monroe/Amir
    Val/Gray

    lose 5 Million off cap and for a year shorter (21Mil altogether), while filling our holes and taking a draft pick. Albeit we created a hole at SF, but signing Carlos Delfino for the MLE would settle the hole neatly for a while.

    Pistons:
    Knight/Siva
    Singler/KCP
    Gay/Villaneuva
    Smith/Jerebko
    Drummond/Kravtsov

    Release a bad contract (Stuckey), and trade for a quasi-Star player that would fit much better next to Smith. Gay - Smith - Drummond will tear opposing front courts UP.
    The Baltic Beast is unstoppable!

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    I would expect Detroit would want us to take Villaneuva as well (which I would do in a heartbeat if it meant wrangling a future #1 out of them, maybe 2016). We could also potentially move DeMar to the 3.

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    Quote magoon wrote: View Post
    I would expect Detroit would want us to take Villaneuva as well (which I would do in a heartbeat if it meant wrangling a future #1 out of them, maybe 2016). We could also potentially move DeMar to the 3.
    Or trade him as well.
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Or trade him as well.
    Well, yeah, but I say that every time and I wanted to, you know, spice it up a little.

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    Rudy Gay for Greg Monroe + Rodney Stuckey + 2014 2nd round pick?

    Raptors:
    Lowry/Stuckey/Stone
    Derozan/Ross
    Fields/Acy/Novak
    Monroe/Amir
    Val/Gray

    lose 5 Million off cap and for a year shorter (21Mil altogether), while filling our holes and taking a draft pick. Albeit we created a hole at SF, but signing Carlos Delfino for the MLE would settle the hole neatly for a while.

    Pistons:
    Knight/Siva
    Singler/KCP
    Gay/Villaneuva
    Smith/Jerebko
    Drummond/Kravtsov

    Release a bad contract (Stuckey), and trade for a quasi-Star player that would fit much better next to Smith. Gay - Smith - Drummond will tear opposing front courts UP.
    Including are front court. Need wing players to win in this league. Rudy is the Better talent and player. Impacts the game more. I would also not like to put a poor defender next to another(JV). We saw how that work with AB.

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    Quote Shantz wrote: View Post
    According to Woj, Josh Smith just signed with the Pistons:

    https://twitter.com/wojyahoonba/stat...89024310571009

    My guess is this means the Pistons wouldn't give up positive assets for Gay.

    It also means that the top wings (Iggy and Smith) are now off the market. Should open up the offers for Gay if Ujiri is considering moving him.
    Fuck. How are we supposed to make the play-offs now?

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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    Including are front court. Need wing players to win in this league. Rudy is the Better talent and player. Impacts the game more. I would also not like to put a poor defender next to another(JV). We saw how that work with AB.
    Is he a poor defender?

    Pistons finished year at 105.6 DefRtg.
    Season opener to January 31st (Calderon trade) they were 103.6 (basically middle of the league).

    Monroe finished the year 105 DefRtg.
    Season opener to January 31st (Calderon trade) he was 102.7.
    (All above stats from stats.nba.com)


    Looking at his career, (stats from Basketball-Reference.com):

    he has improved his defensive win share every year in the league (1.9, 2.7, 3.2). Not sure what it would have looked like prior to Calderon trade.



    **BTW not taking any shots at Calderon here. Just know that the Pistons defense really collapsed after that trade**
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Is he a poor defender?

    Pistons finished year at 105.6 DefRtg.
    Season opener to January 31st (Calderon trade) they were 103.6 (basically middle of the league).

    Monroe finished the year 105 DefRtg.
    Season opener to January 31st (Calderon trade) he was 102.7.
    (All above stats from stats.nba.com)


    Looking at his career, (stats from Basketball-Reference.com):

    he has improved his defensive win share every year in the league (1.9, 2.7, 3.2). Not sure what it would have looked like prior to Calderon trade.



    **BTW not taking any shots at Calderon here. Just know that the Pistons defense really collapsed after that trade**
    lol, not taking shots at Jose???? Entire post is implying Jose had big effect on team defense. Ummmm, ya think the void left by the departure of Tayshaun, their best defender, who Memphis wanted for defense (not his offense), may have something to do with Detroit's defensive drop?

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