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    Time to bring some psycho-T to the T-dot. (lame I know)


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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Time to bring some psycho-T to the T-dot. (lame I know)


    I saw this tweet and thought the same thing (seems like a prototypical Casey-type player).

    But I'm sure a lot of teams would be interested. Not sure I like the idea of a bidding war for Psycho T's services.
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    Pass. He's functionally retarded.

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    Quote Mr.Z wrote: View Post
    Why? Waiters doesn't do much but take a lot of shots, he averaged almost 14 attempts a game, at 41%.
    Barnes averaged 8 attempts a game at .439%, that isn't great either. Waiters is much better at creating for himself on offense too. He only had 40% of his field goals assisted compared to Barnes having about 68% of his field goals assisted. Barnes has had questions about whether he'll be able to create his own offense ever since his college days, but no one ever doubted Waiter's ability in that department. On top of that, Waiters is the superior ball handler and passer, two qualities that make him much more useful on offense, and he doesn't even seem too far off in terms of 3 point shooting. He just needs to improve his shot selection and use his abilities to attack more often instead of settling for jumpers as he's more than capable of doing, but I see him being the better pro.
    Last edited by Sam17; Tue Jul 2nd, 2013 at 03:36 PM.

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    I saw this tweet and thought the same thing (seems like a prototypical Casey-type player).

    But I'm sure a lot of teams would be interested. Not sure I like the idea of a bidding war for Psycho T's services.
    I heard he wants to be a starter, and that's partly why Indiana let him go. In no way is he a starter in this league, but if that's what he wants its not happening in Toronto.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Time to bring some psycho-T to the T-dot. (lame I know)


    He almost re-injured Valanciunas' hand

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    Quote Sam17 wrote: View Post
    Barnes averaged 8 attempts a game at .439%, that isn't great either. Waiters is much better at creating for himself on offense too. He only had 40% of his field goals assisted compared to Barnes having about 68% of his field goals assisted. Barnes has had questions about whether he'll be able to create his own offense ever since his college days, but no one ever doubted Waiter's ability in that department. On top of that, Waiters is the superior ball handler and passer, two qualities that make him much more useful on offense, and he doesn't even seem too far off in terms of 3 point shooting. He just needs to improve his shot selection and use his abilities to attack more often instead of settling for jumpers as he's more than capable of doing, but I see him being the better pro.
    Barnes is a much better defender, played for a playoff team with more talent ( which means less shots) knows his role, doesnt chuck as many bad shots, is more efficient, more athletic, isnt undersized, was very good in the playoffs( especially against the second best team in the postseason)

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    Quote Vykis wrote: View Post
    Barnes is a much better defender, played for a playoff team with more talent ( which means less shots) knows his role, doesnt chuck as many bad shots, is more efficient, more athletic, isnt undersized, was very good in the playoffs( especially against the second best team in the postseason)
    Yeah Barnes put in work during the playoffs, but based on their rookie regular seasons, I'd go with Waiters. Barnes played for a team where he wasn't a top 3 option, reason he took less shots and was more efficient, but if he was placed in Waiter's position in having to play for the lowly Cavaliers that had few scoring options, I think his lack of ability to create for himself would've been exposed (kinda like it was in college when Kendall Marshall went down giving Barnes a larger role). Barnes fits very well with GS and was the perfect pick for them, but in terms of pure talent and offensive potential I still like Dion for now... as long as the shot selection improves and he starts uses his ability to penetrate instead of taking forced jump shots (would really help his efficiency numbers)

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    Quote Sam17 wrote: View Post
    He almost re-injured Valanciunas' hand
    And when was the last time a Raptor player was on the giving end of a floor slam?

    If Casey wants toughness, Psycho-T is a good place to start.

    Personally, I don't want Hansbrough as Amir already plays what will hopefully be Amir's role (1st big off the bench who can play PF and C... with Hansbrough unable to play C) - just saying he is out there, unrestricted.
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    7-11 is ok as long as it is a stepping stone and not a ceiling
    I thought 7-11 undermined prolonged time-frame... being stuck in there. Regardless, of course it is acceptable as a stepping stone; no one gets to the top without going through the middle. Hopefully passing by this middle in a year or two.

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    Corey Brewer is a FA yes? He played under Casey AND was signed by Ujiri. I've long been a Brewer fan. If Demar gets moved for a big or a PG i could see him getting signed.
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    Guys, who cares who works with Casey? The man is on coach death row.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    And when was the last time a Raptor player was on the giving end of a floor slam?

    If Casey wants toughness, Psycho-T is a good place to start.

    Personally, I don't want Hansbrough as Amir already plays what will hopefully be Amir's role (1st big off the bench who can play PF and C... with Hansbrough unable to play C) - just saying he is out there, unrestricted.
    Just musing but did someone recently say that (paraphrase) "we want other teams coming here and understand they have been in a game" or "team identity". PsychoT, Amir, Acy, Lowry, JV, Capt. Jack, Gray, Matt Barnes, MettaWP... could have the makings of a cloned Detroit BadBoys team....or be representative of the Raptor claw. Hah.

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    LOL, too bad they'd get schooled when they weren't throwing elbows and tossing bricks.

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    You mean you dont want ESPN leading their sports news with the Raptors game each evening? Just for a year...pleeease.

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    Apparently Telfair is planning on going to a contender. Hopefully raps can lock up a pg soon.

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    Beno Udrih is a PG who has not been mentioned but I'd be fine with as a backup. SHould be relatively cheap too.
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    http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2013/0...s-the-numbers/

    Interesting read for any statically inclined people.
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    Quote Sam17 wrote: View Post
    He almost re-injured Valanciunas' hand
    The fact that Vogul brought him back into the game pissed me off more than his initial bought of tard.

    Honestly though, he's REALLY good at pissing people off. That's an asset.

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    So if Chicago Amnesties Boozer can Raps pick him up?

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