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    If Dwight made up his mind, why hasn't he told anyone yet?? If he isn't returning to Lakerland, there will be chaos in L.A. I really like Houston, so I don't know if I want him going there..

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    Quote Raptor_11 wrote: View Post
    If Dwight made up his mind, why hasn't he told anyone yet?? If he isn't returning to Lakerland, there will be chaos in L.A. I really like Houston, so I don't know if I want him going there..
    Well, Gasol predicted he was going to Houston. The only rumour I read said he was re-signing in LA.

    I've read nothing about his interest in any of the other teams involved. Just their interst in him
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    Quote Rapstor4Life wrote: View Post
    Fuck Dwight Howard! why do teams want that clwon?
    When he's not being a clown, he's a pretty damn good basketball player

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    Looks like its Houston

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    I don't have any faith left in this organization if they blow the team up again.
    I agree. It never worked before and we'll be doing the exact same thing we've done the last 5 years. It's not a very creative plan. It's simply gut the team and hope we pick #1. If it doesn't work we're completely fucked.

    Like, what if the guy we draft is a bust? We're looking at another few years of rebuilding. It's just a fucking stupid Idea to me.

    It doesn't take a genius to tank and get the #1 pick, all you have to do is fuck the dog and hope for the best. We didn't hire Ujiri to do the exact same thing every other GM has already though of and/or considered.

    We hired Ujiri because he's a smart person and can come up with better idea than blow it up and hope for the best.

    Fuck.

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    Quote Sam17 wrote: View Post
    When he's not being a clown, he's a pretty damn good basketball player
    hmm a 7 footer that doesnt work on his game has limited drive and motivation and is proven locker room poison that cant Post up? SIGN ME UP!

    D Howard sucks one of the biggest overhyped overrated players in history.

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    Quote Mr.Z wrote: View Post
    Like, what if the guy we draft is a bust? We're looking at another few years of rebuilding. It's just a fucking stupid Idea to me.
    Look, either you believe that GMs and their scouting organizations can get a good idea of a player's upside or you don't. If you don't, that's great, you want to believe it's still 1998 and analytics haven't been invented yet and scouts still rank players based on their gut - in which case trading is just as pointless as drafting because hey, maybe the guy you trade for doesn't play well next year! You never know!

    Which is to say: "what if we draft badly" is not a valid answer, particularly when the question is "what is the easiest way for our team to become a serious championship contender" is so fucking obvious. You anti-draft people keep repeating the same three or four bogus arguments (the "only two championship teams have ever drafted their star" is my personal favorite because it is just so fucking stupid and wrong) like they're gospel truth.

    Go cheer for the Bucks. Seriously. You'll be happier.

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    Look, either you believe that GMs and their scouting organizations can get a good idea of a player's upside or you don't. If you don't, that's great, you want to believe it's still 1998 and analytics haven't been invented yet and scouts still rank players based on their gut - in which case trading is just as pointless as drafting because hey, maybe the guy you trade for doesn't play well next year! You never know!

    Which is to say: "what if we draft badly" is not a valid answer, particularly when the question is "what is the easiest way for our team to become a serious championship contender" is so fucking obvious. You anti-draft people keep repeating the same three or four bogus arguments (the "only two championship teams have ever drafted their star" is my personal favorite because it is just so fucking stupid and wrong) like they're gospel truth.

    Go cheer for the Bucks. Seriously. You'll be happier.
    lol,,, ya gotta get a handle on that anger lad. We"re just talking basketball, and it may be a surprise to you, but good, even smart, people can have a different opinion than you.

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    Quote enlightenment wrote: View Post
    Man... I want Millsap in a Raptors jersey SO BAD. I would even trade Derozan for him.
    Lowry, Ross, Gay, Milsap, JV, with Amir as 6th man. I could live with that for sure

    Edit: I can't imagine Casey starting Ross though, he's allergic to younger guys on the floor

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    Utah renounced their Bird rights to Millsap, so he"s now a UFA. Only way we could snag him is with help from someone else.

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    Quote magoon wrote: View Post
    Look, either you believe that GMs and their scouting organizations can get a good idea of a player's upside or you don't. If you don't, that's great, you want to believe it's still 1998 and analytics haven't been invented yet and scouts still rank players based on their gut - in which case trading is just as pointless as drafting because hey, maybe the guy you trade for doesn't play well next year! You never know!

    Which is to say: "what if we draft badly" is not a valid answer, particularly when the question is "what is the easiest way for our team to become a serious championship contender" is so fucking obvious. You anti-draft people keep repeating the same three or four bogus arguments (the "only two championship teams have ever drafted their star" is my personal favorite because it is just so fucking stupid and wrong) like they're gospel truth.

    Go cheer for the Bucks. Seriously. You'll be happier.
    The Bucks have at least made the playoffs and had winning seasons since 2007. Like why wouldn't a bucks fan be happier than a raptors fan?

    The first step to a championship is making the fucking playoffs!

    I'm not saying the bucks are championship caliber. But, if I was a player looking to win. Milwaukee is looking better thanToronto..
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    Quote p00ka wrote: View Post
    Utah renounced their Bird rights to Millsap, so he"s now a UFA. Only way we could snag him is with help from someone else.
    There's no way we could get him unless we shed millions in salary or trade for him in December. We can't sign and trade anymore or sign straight up, since he won't accept MLE.

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    Quote p00ka wrote: View Post
    lol,,, ya gotta get a handle on that anger lad.
    I'm not angry. I just like swearing.

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    Quote magoon wrote: View Post
    I'm not angry. I just like swearing.
    I think intense is a more fitting word
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    The Bucks have at least made the playoffs and had winning seasons since 2007. Like why wouldn't a bucks fan be happier than a raptors fan?
    First off, the Bucks have been to the playoffs as many times as the Raptors have since 2007. Second, in the past twenty-five years, the Bucks have had a few playoff appearances, but they've only made it out of the first round once. Why? Because the NBA is a boom-and-bust league and the Bucks for the most part are content in the mediocre middle. The first round of the playoffs is their ceiling. I don't think that's good enough for Toronto and want the team to properly do the work to get us beyond that, and if it means another losing season then so be it.

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    Quote magoon wrote: View Post
    First off, the Bucks have been to the playoffs as many times as the Raptors have since 2007. Second, in the past twenty-five years, the Bucks have had a few playoff appearances, but they've only made it out of the first round once. Why? Because the NBA is a boom-and-bust league and the Bucks for the most part are content in the mediocre middle. The first round of the playoffs is their ceiling. I don't think that's good enough for Toronto and want the team to properly do the work to get us beyond that, and if it means another losing season then so be it.
    ...The bucks made the playoffs this past season....
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    Quote Rapstor4Life wrote: View Post
    hmm a 7 footer that doesnt work on his game has limited drive and motivation and is proven locker room poison that cant Post up? SIGN ME UP!

    D Howard sucks one of the biggest overhyped overrated players in history.
    His defensive player of the year awards were no fluke, his impact on a game at that end is something else. I don't believe he's a locker room poison either, besides last year in Los angeles which was just a complete fail altogether, Dwight is known for his positive, fun personality. On top of that, he's always near or at the top of the league in rebounding and blocks. and if my center averages 20 points on better than 57% shooting from the field, I don't think I'd have a problem with his inability to post up. Then there's all the other ways he impacts a game by drawing tons attention, making players think twice when wanting to drive, etc.

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    Quote LBF wrote: View Post
    ...The bucks made the playoffs this past season....
    Which means that since 2007 both the Raptors (2007, 2008) and the Bucks (2010, 2013) have made the playoffs twice.

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    What if Kleiza is amnestied?

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    Amnesty doesn't mean we get extra money....

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