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But it's still so hard to picture anyone giving the team something for Kleiza. The paragraph mentions "if he shows glimpses of his old game", but where will he get those minutes? He'd have to show something really special in camp, given he has to outplay Hansbrough, Acy, Fields, and Novak for minutes...sorry, backup minutes.
I do think it's possible there will be limited opportunities to trade him during the season...I'm not sure any of those scenarios are better than amnestying him.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostFrom Zach Lowe at Grantland.com:
I don't think amnestying him is as open and shut a case as one, myself included, might think. Lowe raises good points in that last paragraph.Official Pope of the Raptors sponsored by MLSE.
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white men can't jump wrote: View PostBut it's still so hard to picture anyone giving the team something for Kleiza. The paragraph mentions "if he shows glimpses of his old game", but where will he get those minutes? He'd have to show something really special in camp, given he has to outplay Hansbrough, Acy, Fields, and Novak for minutes...sorry, backup minutes.
I do think it's possible there will be limited opportunities to trade him during the season...I'm not sure any of those scenarios are better than amnestying him.Official Pope of the Raptors sponsored by MLSE.
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RandomGuy wrote: View PostYou forgot Eurobasket.
I suppose there are some bad GMs who don't know how to evaluate such information though. After all, BC did sign him to this contract largely based on his year abroad and subsequent international play.
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white men can't jump wrote: View PostNo I didn't. But I think by now people know not to expect his National Team performances to indicate anything about his NBA utility. Kleiza always plays better on that stage. Being a tweener is less of an issue internationally. Partly out of style...partly because the physical issues that make him a liability in the NBA are not really a factor. He's got good enough size for a PF, especially given his shooting range, and most teams don't have USA-like athletes at SF.
I suppose there are some bad GMs who don't know how to evaluate such information though. After all, BC did sign him to this contract largely based on his year abroad and subsequent international play.Official Pope of the Raptors sponsored by MLSE.
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RandomGuy wrote: View PostYes, that's exactly what I'm trying to say, some teams can still pick him up. I mean Telfair = 2nd round pick. He barely played as well.
Still not sure it's a more beneficial plan than amnestying him.
I mean, amnesty him and with wiggle room, sign a backup PG to a 2 year deal (2nd non guaranteed) that is worth the same or less total than Kleiza....that guy will also have trade value, probably more than Kleiza. I'm thinking AJ Price. 2 years/ 3.5-4 million. Decent enough backup PG. If a team needs one at the trade deadline, I'm much more confident in his value than Kleiza (what need would he fill for a team?).Last edited by white men can't jump; Thu Jul 11, 2013, 11:00 AM.
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amnestying Kleiza provides no new exceptions, or wiggle room. The only benefit would be to avoid paying tax, which I am sure MLSE doesn't particularly care aboutFor still frame photograph of me reading the DeRozan thread please refer to my avatar
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thead wrote: View Postamnestying Kleiza provides no new exceptions, or wiggle room. The only benefit would be to avoid paying tax, which I am sure MLSE doesn't particularly care about
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thead wrote: View Postamnestying Kleiza provides no new exceptions, or wiggle room. The only benefit would be to avoid paying tax, which I am sure MLSE doesn't particularly care about
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CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View PostAs long as the Raptors are below the luxury tax threshold by July 1st, 2014, they'll avoid their first season of being a 'tax team', which has longer-term implications per the repeater tax penalties. Even if they don't amnesty Kleiza or shed salary (ie: Camby) before the season starts, they can still shed sufficient salary by the trade deadline, to get under the tax line. At least, that's the way I understand the CBA to work...
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thead wrote: View Postamnestying Kleiza provides no new exceptions, or wiggle room. The only benefit would be to avoid paying tax, which I am sure MLSE doesn't particularly care about
However, in doing this the Raptors are then limited to a hardcap of $75.748M until July 1st, 2014.
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Raptors expected to use their amnesty clause on forward Linas Kleiza on last possible day Tuesday, source told Y! LK likely to go overseas.
— Marc J. Spears (@SpearsNBAYahoo) July 16, 2013
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