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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    Yeah who'd want a first rounder in arguably the best draft in 10 years and possibly the next coming of Paul George?
    Sadly their pick is going to Charlotte 9+ this year.

    Only way Raps get a sniff at their 2014 pick is the right to swap.
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    CV or Stuckey
    Knight
    rights to KCP
    rights to Mitchell
    right to swap 2014 and 2015


    That would peak my interest.

    (BTW - Knight appears to be a backup long term, IMO).
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    CV or Stuckey
    Knight
    rights to KCP
    rights to Mitchell
    right to swap 2014 and 2015


    That would peak my interest.

    (BTW - Knight appears to be a backup long term, IMO).
    Is that possible? Isn't it apparently Charlotte's pick?

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    The trick here would be getting anything for Gay, because presumably Detroit doesn't want to move Greg Monroe, Andre Drummond, Brandon Knight or Kentavious Caldwell-Pope. That's their quality young core. The problem is they literally have nobody else, and Detroit's 2014 pick is already committed (with protection) to Charlotte.

    If we can pry Drummond or Caldwell-Pope from Detroit, though, I would do either of those with multiple second-rounders thrown in straight-up. But Masai can probably work something better - maybe a three- or four-team trade where we move both Rudy AND DeMar and collect some 2014 first-round picks. If Charlotte is silly enough to be offer Al Jefferson a max deal then they are silly enough to trade some of those picks.

    Something like:

    Toronto gets Ben Gordon, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, rights to Caldwell-Pope, Detroit's first-round draft pick in 2014 unprotected, Portland's 2014 protected first-rounder (via Charlotte), maybe some second-rounders
    Charlotte gets DeMar, Linas Kleiza
    Detroit gets Rudy

    That would be pretty amazing.
    Not sure why you included Detroit's 2014 first round pick in your proposed trade when you noted a few sentences earlier that they do not own their 2014 first round pick, and therefore cannot trade it.

    EDIT:
    Sorry, this trade was too insane for me to even notice you had Charlotte giving up detroit's first round 2014 pick, Portland's 2014 first round pick, MKG, and second rounders for Demar and Kleiza. That my friend, is the definition of INSANITY! 3 lotto picks for Derozan (two in 2014 + MKG)?!?!?! I like DD but holy shit that's never going to happen.
    Last edited by Primer; Tue Jul 2nd, 2013 at 09:24 PM.

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    Is that possible? Isn't it apparently Charlotte's pick?
    Yes it is possible if Detroit owns the pick.

    If Charlotte owns the pick, Toronto gets jack.
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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    I would take Monroe, KCP and draft pick (and filler/TPE) for Gay. But if Dumars does that, he's probably going to lose his job.
    at least it benefits the raps!!!

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    Naw dawg. I'll pass on that trade.

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    Another possibility is to include Jason Maxiell, in a sign-and-trade. Stuckey+Maxiell+picks for Gay. Both would fill the backup spots for their respective positions, and Stuckey is expiring. Even though I want the Raps to go hard for Grievis Vasquez, Stuckey would be decent, probably traded at the deadline anyway.

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    Quote serbiantiger8 wrote: View Post
    Another possibility is to include Jason Maxiell, in a sign-and-trade. Stuckey+Maxiell+picks for Gay. Both would fill the backup spots for their respective positions, and Stuckey is expiring. Even though I want the Raps to go hard for Grievis Vasquez, Stuckey would be decent, probably traded at the deadline anyway.
    Stucky and Maxiell are bad players on a bad team. Why would we want them? Total garbage. Stuckey struggled to play PG. So they eventually moved him to SG. Then to the bench. Now probably to another team. Maxiell looked like he was 59 years old out there last year. An undersized hustle PF with an extremely limited offensive game isn't very useful when he loses his athleticism. This would basically be a comparable deal to what they got done for Bargs. That's pretty dreadful.

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    what i hope Ujiri does with this team


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    Seriously Detroit is an awful trading partner.

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    This might be crazy (but so is dumars at times) but given their reported interest in josh smith, they may have a very crowded front court. Maybe he saw enough in Drummond last year (as many in the republic did) to make Monroe expendable and go with a gay/smith/drummond front? Stranger things have happened. Has Monroe plateaued?

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    Lol

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    If the Raps trade Gay then that means next season is all about tanking for Wiggins. If Gay stays then it means playoffs.

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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post

    If i'm MU, I don't know what i would do. I want to make the playoffs but i also want Andrew Wiggins.
    MU did say that the goal was to win a championship so any half-assed effort of not going for it will mean that MU lied to the Raptors nation.

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    funny part is that Detroit fans expect Gay+Raps pick for used parts (not Monroe or Drummond). entertaining read to say the least:
    http://www.detroitbadboys.com/2013/7...s-trade-rumors

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    Stucky and Maxiell are bad players on a bad team. Why would we want them? Total garbage. Stuckey struggled to play PG. So they eventually moved him to SG. Then to the bench. Now probably to another team. Maxiell looked like he was 59 years old out there last year. An undersized hustle PF with an extremely limited offensive game isn't very useful when he loses his athleticism. This would basically be a comparable deal to what they got done for Bargs. That's pretty dreadful.
    Maxiell would be our backup power forward, he'd probable be getting around 15 minutes a night, where he can hustle and play solid defense, which he can do. I agree with you on Stuckey 100 percent, but he's an expiring contract, and there will be some team out there at the trade deadline who would give up some picks or another player for that expiring contracts. Plus the picks don't hurt. Detroit is one of the few teams that a trade for Gay would make sense, as they seriously lack talent at the 3 position.

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    Quote ryanc123 wrote: View Post
    Based on that possibility, the Pistons were among the first teams to reach out to the Celtics and express interest in acquiring Rondo, the All-Star point guard who is coming off an ACL injury, league sources told CBSSports.com. Having already made lucrative pitches to free agents Josh Smith and Andre Iguodala, Pistons president Joe Dumars also has registered interest in Raptors forward Rudy Gay, one source said. CBSSports.com

    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/ke...nger-available
    let me think about that...yeeeaah..NO.
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    Does anyone else think it's interesting that the Pistons would announce their interest at all? I mean, you don't often hear about teams showing interest in a player, especially a "pseudo-all star" unless they think or have heard they might be available.

    Maybe I'm just over thinking things...

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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    Does anyone else think it's interesting that the Pistons would announce their interest at all? I mean, you don't often hear about teams showing interest in a player, especially a "pseudo-all star" unless they think or have heard they might be available.
    Partially it's interest. Partially it's to remind the other guys they're courting, like Iggy and Josh Smith, that Detroit has options.

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