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    I find Sam Amico to be more and more interesting/credible by the day.

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    Hey Sam, you nailed the last Raptors rumour you mentioned. So can I ask if you think Cleveland has any interest in Rudy Gay, and whether you think Toronto is entering firesale mode?
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    Sam Amico: Yeah, I think the Raptors would like to move Gay. I would hope the Cavs would get in on those conversations. Pistons are all over it. Raptors appear to be OK with playing the lottery in 2014. Maybe not a bad idea.
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    Rudy doing his part to up his trade value!

    lol

    jk

    sorta
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    Rudy Gay just now on his twitter: Lookin forward to playing a full season with the raptors
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    Rudy doing his part to up his trade value!

    lol

    jk

    sorta
    Rudy is trolling the media and the fans, or is he?!

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    I like Rudy, no problems there aside from his whining to the officials...but I have been a fan a lon time, they have sucked, more or less...always. Whats one more year if it gives you even at best a 25% chance to land the hottest prospect on the planet, who just happens to be From the GTA?

    I say tank, and tank hard, really hard.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post



    Rudy doing his part to up his trade value!

    lol

    jk

    sorta
    To me it sounds like Ujiri talked to him and said "Don't worry about these rumours. Your not going anywhere." Gay is an intelligent guy he wouldn't post something like that. Too be traded days later!

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    There are a few shoes to drop before there is a Rudy deal if any. Howard. Josh Smith and Iggy. Rudy after those. Teams who miss out on DH will probably default to the next two. When they sign Gay is the next best (?) SF available for any team wanting to make some type of statement and fill a need. MU doesnt have to be aggressive now but I doubt he shuts down any move that looks very attractive (picks and player/s). Detroit & Cleve. are probably among those wanting a SF and likely to miss out on the other players mentioned above...and they have the means...and there is always the possibility of some other team from left field like Phoenix for Bledsoe.

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    People hear what they want to hear. GMs, as a rule, don't take players aside and tell them if they're going to be traded or not unless they specifically want to send a message out to other GMs.

    So there are three possible interpretations here:

    1. Ujiri called up Rudy and said "we're not trading you, feel free to tell people that" so that other GMs know Toronto is not interested in trading Rudy. This is extremely unlikely because Rudy is not LeBron James and therefore it is definitely more than possible to get superior value to Rudy in a trade. (Here, I'll do one for you now: L.A. doesn't want Andrew Bogut and Harrison Barnes in a sign-and-trade with Golden State for Dwight Howard, so we jump in as a third-party enabler to make it happen, sending Rudy to L.A. for Bogut, Barnes, and first-rounders from L.A. and Golden State. That is WILDLY better value than what Rudy offers. I am not saying this will happen - I am saying it is an example of what would easily be better value to Toronto than Rudy.)

    2. Ujiri called up Rudy and said as above, so that other GMs know that if they want Rudy, they have to make a real offer and none of this Detroit "oh take our expiring shitty contracts" bullshit.

    3. Ujiri hasn't said crap to Rudy and Rudy is just trying to communicate that he doesn't want to be traded, or that he's not the sort of guy to go complaining and saying he wants to be traded because he's a team guy (and whether that's the Raptors or another team, who knows), or something else entirely.

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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    To me it sounds like Ujiri talked to him and said "Don't worry about these rumours. Your not going anywhere." Gay is an intelligent guy he wouldn't post something like that. Too be traded days later!
    I doubt MU would do that.

    All trade options will be explored to improve this team long terms.

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    Quote Bendit wrote: View Post
    There are a few shoes to drop before there is a Rudy deal if any. Howard. Josh Smith and Iggy. Rudy after those. Teams who miss out on DH will probably default to the next two. When they sign Gay is the next best (?) SF available for any team wanting to make some type of statement and fill a need. MU doesnt have to be aggressive now but I doubt he shuts down any move that looks very attractive (picks and player/s). Detroit & Cleve. are probably among those wanting a SF and likely to miss out on the other players mentioned above...and they have the means...and there is always the possibility of some other team from left field like Phoenix for Bledsoe.
    Howard is THE shoe.


    Cleveland and Detroit are very interesting IF IF IF Gay were to be traded.

    Both teams owners have said Playoffs or bust next season.

    Both teams have a lot of cap space and/or expiring contracts.

    Both teams have desirable pieces (CLE: PF/Bennett/Thompson, future picks, Karasev; DET: KCV, Mitchell, Knight, Monroe).
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Howard is THE shoe.


    Cleveland and Detroit are very interesting IF IF IF Gay were to be traded.

    Both teams owners have said Playoffs or bust next season.

    Both teams have a lot of cap space and/or expiring contracts.

    Both teams have desirable pieces (CLE: PF/Bennett/Thompson, future picks, Karasev; DET: KCV, Mitchell, Knight, Monroe).
    If Cavs interest is like the Pistons, who cares? Considering where these two teams are at in talent, their interest is in thinking Rudy can take them over the top to their goal, so why would they give good assets? As evidenced by the idiotic Detroit "offer", it appears that not only are some dumb media people thinking that the AB trade is a signal that Masai is holding a fire sale to tank, but Detroit and possibly Cleveland are that stupid too?

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    It's always nice to have multiple dance partners in a trade. MU has some experience in this

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    Quote p00ka wrote: View Post
    If Cavs interest is like the Pistons, who cares? Considering where these two teams are at in talent, their interest is in thinking Rudy can take them over the top to their goal, so why would they give good assets? As evidenced by the idiotic Detroit "offer", it appears that not only are some dumb media people thinking that the AB trade is a signal that Masai is holding a fire sale to tank, but Detroit and possibly Cleveland are that stupid too?
    You have to start somewhere.

    If Dumars calls and says, "Stuckey and CV for Gay. What say you?"

    You can guarantee the comeback (through muffled laughter in the background by Weltman) is, "I was thinking KCP, Monroe, Drummond, Mitchell, and your 2nd round pick."



    One thing to remember is the Cavs have a backlog at PF (Bennett, Thompson, arguably Varejao) and if the Pistons end up with Smith, Monroe might suddenly be odd man out.

    Can't wait for the D12 shoe to drop.
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    Thing is even if we trade Rudy Gay this team is not bad enought to tank. Other than 4-19 start this team played just above .500 basketball. Between the 4-19 start from when the acquired Rudy Gay the raptors went 12-11. Even if they just trade Gay this team will still win 30+ games. That is not effective tanking.

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    Nice to see that appear in my feed. Its also a nice Fuck you to the Pistons.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    I find Sam Amico to be more and more interesting/credible by the day.



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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    You have to start somewhere.

    If Dumars calls and says, "Stuckey and CV for Gay. What say you?"

    You can guarantee the comeback (through muffled laughter in the background by Weltman) is, "I was thinking KCP, Monroe, Drummond, Mitchell, and your 2nd round pick."



    One thing to remember is the Cavs have a backlog at PF (Bennett, Thompson, arguably Varejao) and if the Pistons end up with Smith, Monroe might suddenly be odd man out.

    Can't wait for the D12 shoe to drop.
    Another comment/answer by Sam Amico:
    Comment From Colon Jello (Cavs fan I presume):
    Tristan Thompson for Rudy Gay. Who says no?
    Sam Amico: You made me think. That's nearly impossible. Congratulations.

    Sounds like a fair deal (from Cavs perspective) and hell of a lot better than Detroit BS offer.
    Lets compare Gay with say paying Iggy 15 mil x4 years. You MAY argue Iggy is much better defender and better player now but IN 4 YEARS. Give me a break. On top of it (if you are Detroit) you still have TWO very shitty contracts in Stuckey & Charlie V.

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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    Thing is even if we trade Rudy Gay this team is not bad enought to tank. Other than 4-19 start this team played just above .500 basketball. Between the 4-19 start from when the acquired Rudy Gay the raptors went 12-11. Even if they just trade Gay this team will still win 30+ games. That is not effective tanking.
    We've just traded our by far best hope for tanking: Bargnani.

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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    Thing is even if we trade Rudy Gay this team is not bad enought to tank. Other than 4-19 start this team played just above .500 basketball. Between the 4-19 start from when the acquired Rudy Gay the raptors went 12-11. Even if they just trade Gay this team will still win 30+ games. That is not effective tanking.
    why do people keep mentioning the 4-19 start as some bizarre anomaly that shouldn't be counted in the overall stats? its like saying "other than all the games lost, the raptors were winning!"

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    Raps really might be in great position to trade gay.

    When looking at Cleveland and Detroit:

    Both teams owners as publicly pushing playoffs with new coaches, both have expressed interest in Rudy in the past, both have crazy cap space, both have interesting assets from raptor perspective, and bob organizations have shown history of short sighted thinking in quest to compete sooner than later.

    If pistons land smith, things could get very interesting. A bidding war would be awesome!

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