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    Hoo-ray, the Raps aren't mentioned in that tweet!!

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    Quote magoon wrote: View Post
    Update on the "possible suitors for Rudy" list:

    Charlotte just signed Al Jefferson to a three-year $41 million deal. I am not the biggest fan of Big Al, but teams planning to tank don't sign reasonably good centers to big deals; I would bet they would be interested in Rudy now, and there's so much to loot from them (Detroit and Portland's protected 2014 picks, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Kemba Walker).
    That is awesome to hear.

    Whether Rudy stays or goes (same with DD or Lowry for that matter) I'm not too concerned about it. The main thing is having as many options for Ujiri to choose from. Charlotte, Cleveland, and Detroit are far from willingly tanking and all 3 have expressed interest in Gay in the past. May the offers start rolling.
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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    i'd do gay for tyrus thomas and a 2014 pick in a heartbeat
    But with a starting lineup of Jefferson, Zeller, Gay, Henderson and Walker and with guys like MKG, Sessions, Mullens, and Taylor on the bench, where do you think that 2014 pick will end up? I don't know if I'm the only one who thinks so, but that would look like a formidable squad

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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    i'd do gay for tyrus thomas and a 2014 pick in a heartbeat




    Not gonna happen!
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    Quote Sam17 wrote: View Post
    But with a starting lineup of Jefferson, Zeller, Gay, Henderson and Walker and with guys like MKG, Sessions, Mullens, and Taylor on the bench, where do you think that 2014 pick will end up? I don't know if I'm the only one who thinks so, but that would look like a formidable squad
    I think that potential Bobcats squad sucks the pipe. You're taking a team that went 21-61 last year and adding Jefferson (an all-iso-offense, no-defense center), Rudy (a good small forward but definitively not a team-changer) and Zeller (a project at best). The Al Jefferson signing isn't proof that the Bobcats will be good; it's proof that they're going to try and buy their way into contention. But, because they're the Bobcats, they're doing it in the stupidest way possible.

    Of course, I'm not sure that the Bobcats 2014 pick is technically dealable without some major cleverness, because right now it's dealt to Chicago on a protected basis, so if they trade Toronto the protection (which is 1-10 this year), Toronto would have to potentially give them a first-rounder in 2015 in the event that Chicago got their 2015 pick (so that Charlotte doesn't go without a first-rounder in consecutive years, which is against the rules). I think it has to be worded like:

    "Charlotte trades Toronto their first-round pick in 2014 (11-30 protected); if Chicago gets Charlotte's pick in 2015, Toronto agrees to trade their first-round pick to Charlotte; if Toronto does not get Charlotte's first-round pick in 2014, Charlotte trades their 2016 first-round pick to Toronto."

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    Masai must be in his glee right now.

    MU: "Yo Joey D. Sup man. Listen. You want Gay?"
    JD: "Yeah Masai. We'll give you the expirings."
    MU: "Fuck that, Joe. You see Charlotte just signed Jefferson? They have real wood for Rudy, too. And don't they have your draft pick?"
    JD: "What do you mean, Masai?"
    MU: "You really are stupid aren't you, Joe. Gordon, Charlie V, and now this? Make me a real offer before I send Gay to Charlotte for your pick and probably Portland's too."
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    Bobcats made an awesome signing.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post




    Not gonna happen!
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Masai must be in his glee right now.

    MU: "Yo Joey D. Sup man. Listen. You want Gay?"
    JD: "Yeah Masai. We'll give you the expirings."
    MU: "Fuck that, Joe. You see Charlotte just signed Jefferson? They have real wood for Rudy, too. And don't they have your draft pick?"
    JD: "What do you mean, Masai?"
    MU: "You really are stupid aren't you, Joe. Gordon, Charlie V, and now this? Make me a real offer before I send Gay to Charlotte for your pick and probably Portland's too."
    It's funny how long it's been since anyone referred to Joe Dumars as a brilliant GM

    I can't understand how he's still employed.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    It's funny how long it's been since anyone referred to Joe Dumars as a brilliant GM

    I can't understand how he's still employed.
    I think he is old school in that he operates predominantly on the eye test. Flip Saunders made comments around the draft talking about stats but how he still goes on what he knows and sees. That is all well and good if the stats support what your eyes are seeing but when they aren't.....
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    I have a couple friends who live in detroit/are pistons fans and let me tell you Dumars is nobody's preference down there. i'm kind of amazed he's been able to stick around for so long.
    @jerboat

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    Quote Sam17 wrote: View Post
    But with a starting lineup of Jefferson, Zeller, Gay, Henderson and Walker and with guys like MKG, Sessions, Mullens, and Taylor on the bench, where do you think that 2014 pick will end up? I don't know if I'm the only one who thinks so, but that would look like a formidable squad
    Only one player on that list has been part of a winning team in the NBA. They are still very young and inexperienced.

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    Quote Primer wrote: View Post
    Memphis needed to move Gay to get under the luxury tax.
    no they didn't. memphis traded gay because they invested heavily in analytics and their analytics team deemed gay inefficient and wildly overpaid and that they'd be better off without him. which they were.

    they got under the luxury tax earlier with this trade

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    Quote chris wrote: View Post
    no they didn't. memphis traded gay because they invested heavily in analytics and their analytics team deemed gay inefficient and wildly overpaid and that they'd be better off without him. which they were.

    they got under the luxury tax earlier with this trade
    I would only add that the trade saved them from the luxury tax in future years and added a considerable amount of flexibility for a team hell bent on avoiding the tax.
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    Rumours on Rondo's Facebook page saying that the Pistons have offered Stuckey, Villaneuva, Greg Monroe and Brandon Knight for Rondo, Courtney Lee and Gerald Wallace.

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    Quote magoon wrote: View Post
    Rumours on Rondo's Facebook page saying that the Pistons have offered Stuckey, Villaneuva, Greg Monroe and Brandon Knight for Rondo, Courtney Lee and Gerald Wallace.
    Wow.
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    Cavs have a lot of tweeners and PF's now.
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    @jerboat

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    Damn, Greg Monroe?
    Thats ground altering! I say Boston will bite!
    The Baltic Beast is unstoppable!

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    Quote magoon wrote: View Post
    Rumours on Rondo's Facebook page saying that the Pistons have offered Stuckey, Villaneuva, Greg Monroe and Brandon Knight for Rondo, Courtney Lee and Gerald Wallace.
    You sure? I have not seen this anywhere.
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