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    Default Mission Statement

    Whether useful or not (mostly not), I'm sure many of you have been in an organization that has a "mission statement" outlining what the overall goals are. It would be great to have one from the raptors. On many other threads here, half of us are praising one rumour while others are aghast. The problem is, we're in that middle ground and we don't know which way is up. Are we one or two pieces away from being Indiana? Then build away. Are we tanking? Then do it right. We have been in the lottery for years without trying to get there...what's so bad about one more year? If we know where we are going, we know better what the right moves are.
    My idea would be this. Focus on 2015-16. Whoever we have on our roster that can be a useful piece then, continue to develop them. Anyone else...gone for whatever assets we can get. We get to watch young talent grow and we get a good chance at the overall group in 2014. Everything else is clear. Anyone with a different idea? I suspect there might be.

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    Although I'd love for some transparency, I don't think Ujiri wants to reveal his cards just yet.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Although I'd love for some transparency, I don't think Ujiri wants to reveal his cards just yet.
    True.

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Although I'd love for some transparency, I don't think Ujiri wants to reveal his cards just yet.
    Yes, wouldn't want to scare off any potential seasons ticket holders.

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    Yes, wouldn't want to scare off any potential seasons ticket holders.
    Good point. I'll just add that in today's league with all the media and rumors... its practically impossible to have a definitive plan for a GM to share. Imagine Ujiri opens his cards and labels players X, Y and Z and vital pieces for 15-16 when the Raps are bound to challenge for a championship (hypothetically), then automatically all other players lose their trading value since all the world knows we do not value them highly.

    Not only that, in the new CBA teams will act spontaneously - ala Phily trade at the draft. Who has expected that they'd give away their best player?!

    They may have an agenda up on the board at ACC, but highly unlikely to share it with us

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    "Win. Eventually."

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    Default Tanking vs Rebuilding

    Here is a pretty neat article about tanking vs. rebuilding.

    http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/7/3...ilding-tanking
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    Discuss and stuff.
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    I'm pretty sure the raps this season are going to take advantage of all the teams who are planning on tanking. i hope the're going to make a run to get into the playoffs while giving jv and ross more minutes. rebuilding and making a run at the same time, my prediction ... 4-5 in the east .. a bit high?

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    Quote lilmamba_ wrote: View Post
    I'm pretty sure the raps this season are going to take advantage of all the teams who are planning on tanking. i hope the're going to make a run to get into the playoffs while giving jv and ross more minutes. rebuilding and making a run at the same time, my prediction ... 4-5 in the east .. a bit high?
    Why? what would be the point? To become fodder for Miami Heat in 1st round? No thanks.
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    Quote lilmamba_ wrote: View Post
    I'm pretty sure the raps this season are going to take advantage of all the teams who are planning on tanking. i hope the're going to make a run to get into the playoffs while giving jv and ross more minutes. rebuilding and making a run at the same time, my prediction ... 4-5 in the east .. a bit high?
    These Raps will not have a higher record than Miami, Brooklyn, Indiana or Chicago. 5th place is the absolute height of possibility if absolutely everything goes right, and you know when everything goes right? Me either.

    And since they're not good enough to beat any of those teams in a best of seven... first-round exit, hurrah.

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    Default Future of the franchise depends on what the Raptors do this offseason

    Raptors must quickly decide whether to tank next season or trade Gay. Because to me there's no better year to tank than next year with Wiggins, and Parker and Randle and Vonleh etc all coming up. All future all-stars, franchise changer or in Wiggins case a sure fire future hall of famer.

    If the Raptors decide to keep Gay. Then in my opinion they should sign him LONG TERM and build around him and JV and hopefully with another all-star caliber player. Because whether you like his(Gay) contract or not. Gay is one of the best SF in the game. Best wing player we've had since VC. And i would argue that he's the most skilled player we've had as well since VC.

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    Hasn't this topic been beaten to death over years of 100s of threads, and on-going in multiple threads?

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    Zig when everyone else Zags!

    Raps beat out New York for 5th seed, face Brooklyn in the first round. Hopefully BEAT Brooklyn, and move to the 2nd round in the first time in like... ever. All the while gaining reputation/recognition for our players, thus being able to sell high during next offseason.
    Nothing like a solid playoff series win and competitiveness to showcase our talent!
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    The future is always dependent on present actions.

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    ok.

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    Quote Letter N wrote: View Post
    The future is always dependent on present actions.
    Mighty Mouse is right.

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    Quote Letter N wrote: View Post
    The future is always dependent on present actions.
    Captain obvious to the rescue.
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    Quote enlightenment wrote: View Post
    Zig when everyone else Zags!

    Raps beat out New York for 5th seed, face Brooklyn in the first round. Hopefully BEAT Brooklyn, and move to the 2nd round in the first time in like... ever. All the while gaining reputation/recognition for our players, thus being able to sell high during next offseason.
    Nothing like a solid playoff series win and competitiveness to showcase our talent!
    Mainly, we want our young guns to gain some experience. I feel bad for DD having never even made the playoffs in four years... I have a feeling JV would go into full on beast mode during a playoff run.

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    You've got about 10-12 teams that are probably planning to tank... some of them right from day one, most waiting until mid-season to start their plummet. For them, the strategy is going to be shedding anything that's not a long-term asset, players that would help them win now. Then at the other end of the spectrum, you've got the big-spenders who are already well into the tax and can make very few big moves to change up their roster. In the middle, you've got some teams who are just below the tax, many in small markets, who are cringing at the thought of adding any more salary as the new CBA tightens its claws.

    All of this adds up to, potentially, a lot of mid-season sellers, very few buyers. For a team like Toronto that is currently outside the tax but prepared to go into it to build a contender, they can either go with the flow and tank along with everyone else with okay odds of picking up a single good player and slim odds of picking up a superstar. Or Ujiri can be one of the only buyers and steal good young players and useful vets. Totally rebuild the depth of our roster, maybe acquire a couple gems, perhaps even some future draft picks for clearing a bit of garbage off other desperate sellers' rosters.

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