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    Quote p00ka wrote: View Post
    You're trying to equate apples to watermelons. Indiana didn't need an SF at all, but latched on to a backup PF that they sorely needed, whose only making $4.5M.
    I'm not saying we should've traded Rudy to Indiana. That would be silly. But people here have argued that Rudy can't fetch a 2014 first-rounder or two in a trade, and that is simply and obviously nertz.

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    also in the illustrious company of dion "sweet stroke" waiters and mean willie green.

    "top third" or "slightly above the league average of 38.1%" would be much more accurate than the very hyperbolic "one of the best in the league."
    Again you're not using context. You have to look at VOLUME when evaluating percentages.

    DeRozan took more mid-range shots than ANY OTHER perimeter player in the NBA and STILL shot above average percentage-wise. That is the mark of one of the best shooters from mid-range in the league. On top of that, more of his attempts are contested and off the dribble than the average player as well.

    Are we gonna say Durant is in the same company as Steve Blake as a three point shooter because Blake shoots 42.1% and KD shoots 41.6%? No, because we're not idiots. Durant takes twice as many threes, and usually at a much higher degree of difficulty.

    Why is it so difficult for people to use context when looking at stats? This is not baseball for the one billionth time.

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    Quote Xixak wrote: View Post
    Again you're not using context. You have to look at VOLUME when evaluating percentages.

    DeRozan took more mid-range shots than ANY OTHER perimeter player in the NBA and STILL shot above average percentage-wise. That is the mark of one of the best shooters from mid-range in the league. On top of that, more of his attempts are contested and off the dribble than the average player as well.

    Are we gonna say Durant is in the same company as Steve Blake as a three point shooter because Blake shoots 42.1% and KD shoots 41.6%? No, because we're not idiots. Durant takes twice as many threes, and usually at a much higher degree of difficulty.

    Why is it so difficult for people to use context when looking at stats? This is not baseball for the one billionth time.
    because people don't use their brain

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    Quote Xixak wrote: View Post
    Again you're not using context. You have to look at VOLUME when evaluating percentages.

    DeRozan took more mid-range shots than ANY OTHER perimeter player in the NBA and STILL shot above average percentage-wise. That is the mark of one of the best shooters from mid-range in the league. On top of that, more of his attempts are contested and off the dribble than the average player as well.

    Are we gonna say Durant is in the same company as Steve Blake as a three point shooter because Blake shoots 42.1% and KD shoots 41.6%? No, because we're not idiots. Durant takes twice as many threes, and usually at a much higher degree of difficulty.

    Why is it so difficult for people to use context when looking at stats? This is not baseball for the one billionth time.
    okay i gotcha so demar derozan is not overpaid because he leads the league in bad shot attempts per game and hits them at a slightly above average clip. and also because other teams make poor decisions too.

    thank you for the lesson in context and also economics. i dunno from markets because i am a dude of science.

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    Quote Xixak wrote: View Post
    Again you're not using context. You have to look at VOLUME when evaluating percentages.

    DeRozan took more mid-range shots than ANY OTHER perimeter player in the NBA and STILL shot above average percentage-wise. That is the mark of one of the best shooters from mid-range in the league. On top of that, more of his attempts are contested and off the dribble than the average player as well.

    Are we gonna say Durant is in the same company as Steve Blake as a three point shooter because Blake shoots 42.1% and KD shoots 41.6%? No, because we're not idiots. Durant takes twice as many threes, and usually at a much higher degree of difficulty.

    Why is it so difficult for people to use context when looking at stats? This is not baseball for the one billionth time.
    also since your lesson in context i took a closer look at volume shooters from this range both amongst SG's and amongst all perimeter players, and he's pretty decidedly average. for the purpose of this exercise "volume shooter" was arbitrarily defined as >3 attempts per game (maybe a little low for your definition of volume but there just aren't that many players taking long two's since it's the least effective shot in basketball.)

    anyhow, he's tied for 10th out of 15 SG's to attempt more than 3 shot's from 16-23 feet per game. his average is 40% and their average is 40.3%.

    he's tied for 25th out of 47 perimeter players leaguewide to attempt more than 3 long two's per game. his average is 40% and their average is 40.1%

    fun fact: rudy gay is dead last at 27%.

    you're absolutely right that he takes the most number of long two's per game though.

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