What they got to say now? Nothing they can say now. Mobbin' on the low. Winnin' on the lowThe city embraced me, made me feel at home. The only difference [between Compton and Toronto] for me is the cold. -DeMarNo Where Near the South Side #WeTheNorth
Lowry did little outside the first 3 games to convince me he cracks the top 20 PG's in the NBA, but then this is a "projection" article right, so, it means that it really means....nothing.
Its assuming Lowry wants a better contract, therefore he wont be fat, and he will have learned how to be a leader, a positive influence, and an actual point guard with smarts...big ifs there if you ask me.
As for Parker not on th list....I suppose they are assuming he is moving right from amazing to Alzheimer's over the Summer....I can't think of any other reason to leave a guy like that off.
This list is crazy. If you think of it in the simplest terms (who would I replace Lowry with?) -- Jrue Holiday would have to be in the top 10
3. Westbrook (I wouldn't rank him so high but after seeing OKC crumble without him - he's a game changer)
9. Rondo (best playmaker behind Paul)
10. Rubio (dat potential)
16. Nash (a 2 time MVP who can still average .500 .400 and .900 doesn't just fall off the list)
17. Teague (underrated)
19. Walker (probably could be higher but in a bad situation)
25. (mo) Williams
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I keep finding it funny that outsiders have a much better praise of our players(DD and Lowry) than the ppl in this thread. So far ESPN thinks we have a top10 backcourt. I agree with them too.
Outsiders keep giving props to our players, like the US team selecting DD for their select team, ESPN projecting Lowry as a top 10 PG, JV being given the Summer League MVP, Rudy being categorized having way more value than just expiring contracts and here we are, actual fans of the team, saying that no chance Lowry is a Top 10 PG, Rudy and DD have no trade value and JV, well, he's the only who hasnt gotten the ire of the fans yet.
Is this really "Raptors" republic??
Lots disagree, but I think where Rose is is pretty spot on. This is 2013-14 we're talking about, not the future. You seriously can't expect him to be MVP-calibre after taking a whole year off of pro basketball.
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- Lowry was not on form and seemed torn between the full offense guy and the play-maker guy
- Derozan and Gay were not working well together - too much iso and not enough play-making including screens
- JV was starting to play well down by the basket - but Lowry and Gay repeatedly ignored him
I am going to wait until the pre-season to see if the Raptors are functioning and capable of all this potential
Until they bring the offence up to a higher level and get coordinated, their potential will not be realized
dwight buycks cleeeearly needs to be on this list.
DJ Augustin should be number 1
Remember the ESPN list is projecting next season, it is not a career projection or a career ranking
Nash is done. Teague should be higher... Noone else below 14 is worth mentioning, but how could you have Jennings and Ellis on your list? Am I missing something? I digress. Let's unpack your top 14:
2. Rose -- injured
3. Westbrook --injured
5. Curry -- does he qualify as a pg for the article -- not sure?
6. Holiday -- learning a new system on a new team in a tougher division
7. Parker -- getting up there in age
8. Williams -- Maybe 5 years ago. Not that it matters but the idea that he is a superstar pg is long past.
9. Rondo -- injured
10. Rubio -- hasn't proven himself for a full season without spending huge chunks injured
11. Wall -- played good for the last 2 months of the season; if that's not good enough for the Raps then...
14. Lillard -- Looks like he'll have a better career, but that's not what the list is about.
The reality is the starting 5 were a top 10 offensive and defensive unit, the stats bare that out. Even if the opposition for say the last 5 games was less than aggressive that trend began early in the creation of the unit and maintained itself throughout the portion of the season they played together.
The bench on the other hand was atrocious. If Fields returns without a jumpshot, and a proper bench wing is not brought in, bringing in upgrades in Hansborough, DJ, Buykes (potenially), and the new 3 point specialist do not matter. Especially since the coach goes too deep into his bench on a regular basis. The Raps last year only had Gray and AA who deserved anything resembling minutes off the bench after ED and Jose were moved. That's where most of the games were lost -- poor time management of players.
DeMar should be operating from the corner 3 way more often. Not saying he actually has to shoot the 3, but the fact that he shoots about 35% from that area means that the defense isn't going to be able to leave him open, so you can spread the floor. Now the reason why you'd want DeMar doing this instead of trading him for a one-dimensional player like Redick or Danny Green, is because if he gets closed out, he has the ability to take one or two dribbles and drain the midrange shot or go all the way to the rim baseline and draw fouls. Additionally he could post up his man as well.
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The same ESPN also had the Raptors ranked 11th in the East this upcoming season and the homers were ready to storm Bristol, Connecticut with their pitchforks and torches. Now that they've got Lowry ranked in the top ten, a lot of the same people are praising ESPN as the only ones who know what they're talking about. Funny how that works.
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