- Ok comparing us to Miami and LA is silly, because we'll never have the FA appeal of those teams.
- San Antonio lucked into Tim Duncan, period.
Boston and Houston both did what Ujiri is doing. Accumulated assets which allowed them to make trades for and clear cap space for stars. Boston was able to trade for two players, who were arguably BETTER than Pierce (KG: 22-13-4 the year before, RA: 26-5-4, PP: 25-6-4) because they spent years stockpiling valuable players, picks and other assets.
So yes that is similar to what Ujiri is trying to do.
I'm trying to not to create an argument for tanking/contending since this is an Austin Daye thread, but I do think that JV could attract high level talent to play with him and/or MU could poach top talent in a trade using the assets he's accumulating from a small market team that needs to rebuild all over again.
For the Boston analogy you could say JV is Pierce, and their 2014 draft pick will be Rondo.
Yeah let's trade away all our good players for whatever we can get then tank.
Oh CRAP we didnt get a top 3 pick! And... he isnt a superstar... he isnt even an all-star.... this guy isn't even better than Rudy Gay...
Inb4 someone says I'm exaggerating, but that's much more likely to happen than drafting a superstar. Just ask Minnesota or Sacramento what it's like to get raped by the lottery year after year.
"You donít know the Bruno Caboclo......"Bruno Caboclo
So what I'm saying is if Ujiri wants to use the Houston model he needs to keep what he wants and sell off the rest for picks, cap space and young prospects.
Last edited by Mediumcore; Wed Jul 31st, 2013 at 01:39 PM.
First, despite continuous 1st round exits, he never unloaded his best players (Yao, T-Mac), but lost them both to injury. Despite that, he never decided to bottom out. He kept chasing FAs, never getting elite ones, because they weren't interested in shit-town Houston. He did manage to get Lowry, then Dragic, both of which he unloaded/ let walk the same year, to go and overpay for Lin and Asik. He wanted Bosh from the Raps, but Bosh wouldn't agree to an extension. He chased Gasol. He chased Howard (round 1).
His draft picks have generally been horrid (eg. Royce White?????), while he traded his best pick (Batum) for a couple of scrubs, before Batum saw the floor for them.
All the while, he kept the team "competitive", at least as far as chasing playoffs, not lottery picks. Man, that team was floundering in no man's land, and the Lin & Asik deals were evidence of his desperation.
He just got very lucky that Presti had a brain fart and made a bad deal unloading Harden for bit parts: K-Mart for half a year, Lamb, Jones, a 12th pick in a historically weak draft.
There's even more to the story, but NOTHING about the desperate attempt after desperate attempt, and poor draft pick after poor draft pick of Morey and Houston is anywhere close to a shining example to follow. He got very lucky with Harden, period.
Last edited by p00ka; Wed Jul 31st, 2013 at 01:56 PM.
TBH Magloire could see time if we still had him Id rather him out there than Gray. Also the lack of everything Fields really makes me think my Ujiri trading him sometime soon is cming up.
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