Daye's a 4 year NBA veteran. Raptors will be his 3rd team in 5 years. There's a reason for that.
Last year he averaged 5ppg on a HORRIBLE Pistons team. A team that needs wing players. 2 2nd round rookies(English and Middleton) got more playing time for the Pistons at the 2-3 guard position last year. What does that tell you about Daye?
I understand that people here are down with Ross. Played horrible in Summer League. Not gonna deny that. But like i always say, it's a fucking Summer League game. You people need to relax about Ross.
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Daye is a bust, Ross is a bust in the making.
This is an indisputable fact. Both players are basically limited to jumpshooting and Daye is better at it and has an easier time getting his shot off because he's 6'11.Xixak wrote:
Any metric you use tells you Daye is the better player right now. Whether Ross improves could change that, but for now that's the fact.
but here are some convenient numbers if thats your jive.
he only had 7 games with 10+ points last season.
his best 3pt performance was 1 game with 3 threes. the year before that literally only 9 games with a three, his best being 1 game with 4. from bref.com
itt its dumb to use % in a player that gets literally no play time because he sucks
Daye only played 5 less mpg than Ross, and he made 41 threes on 98 attempts in 55 games (42%) which is a significant sample size. He also made 69 on 172 attempts in his sophomore year (40%). Ross only made 65 on 196 attempts this year (33%).
I'm not sure how those random stats you posted are even relevant...
And we're not using convenient #s... Daye is better than Ross in almost every single statistic and they play almost the same minutes...
Daye has better:
Per 36 Stats:
Daye: 13.6ppg, 6.6rpg, 2.2apg, 0.7spg, 1.2bpg, 1.5topg, 43.3% FG, 41.8% 3PT, 76.5% FT
Ross: 13.6ppg, 4.2rpg, 1.5apg, 1.2spg, 0.4bpg, 1.5topg, 40.7% FG, 33.2% 3PT, 71.4% FT
Some fantastic debates going on guys. Keep it up!
The one comparing Ross and Daye is especially intrigueing.
I've always looked at Daye as a 'Anthony Randolph' type, where he just needs the right situation to blossom. And for a minimum contract? I'm happy to let Daye try and find that here.
For his size, Daye's handle is ridiculous, his stroke form is near perfect, and he can make some nice passes looking over shorter defenders. There's obviously a reason he's been passed over so many times, but there was a reason why we, and most people, passed on Chauncey Billups as well. I admit I haven't seen enough of him to say he's reached his ceiling, but for someone who's 6'11", and can dribble and shoot the way he can, that should be a pretty damn high ceiling.
It needs to be noted though, that I don't envision any way Austin Daye is played at PF. He's a tall SG/SF.
"That was Nasty right? Cocked that Joint back and banged on 'em." -James Johnson
Ross is has been a a disappointment but come on guys he just had 1 season so far..... a little harsh bringing up stats at this moment...
It's perfectly fair to compare the %s and per 36 numbers of two players who get about the same amount of playing time in similar roles (Daye and Ross).
Of course Durant and LBJ are gonna shoot lower %s from 3, they almost always take contested shots. Mike Miller meanwhile is a career 41% 3PT shooter with over 1400 made threes, ridiculous to compare his resume to Daye's
You're just grasping for straws because you have no real argument for why Daye isn't better than Ross right now. Give me some concrete evidence for why Ross is the better player other than your crappy eye test. You're not an NBA scout.
12mpg is now about the same as 17mpg?
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