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Thread: Jordan can still dunk. At 50. Unreal.

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    Quote heinz57 wrote: View Post
    for the record, i'm very impressed.



    also, my best jam is peach marmalade

    Why you people are very impressed?

    This dude trained his elastic strength for the 20 years ++ and you think he can not dunk at 50? I don't see anything unreal here.

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    Quote rocwell wrote: View Post
    Why you people are very impressed?

    This dude trained his elastic strength for the 20 years ++ and you think he can not dunk at 50? I don't see anything unreal here.
    Charles barkley couldn't do it.

    mostly, that's why.

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    Quote heinz57 wrote: View Post
    Charles barkley couldn't do it.

    mostly, that's why.
    He's eating 250% more fat than allowed in RDI.

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    Quote rocwell wrote: View Post
    He's eating 250% more fat than allowed in RDI.
    if I was an NBA superstar, making millions and millions more than either my intelligence level or actual practical life skills levels should really allow for...

    the first thing i'd do when I retired is get in line at a krispy kream, but 3 dozen donuts..... then go back and do the same a few hours later for lunch

    so the ability to fight off gluttony ranks very highly in my "skills to admire" category

    in fact, I killed off 10 timbits while typing this post.

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    Quote heinz57 wrote: View Post
    if I was an NBA superstar, making millions and millions more than either my intelligence level or actual practical life skills levels should really allow for...

    the first thing i'd do when I retired is get in line at a krispy kream, but 3 dozen donuts..... then go back and do the same a few hours later for lunch

    so the ability to fight off gluttony ranks very highly in my "skills to admire" category

    in fact, I killed off 10 timbits while typing this post.
    Dude. I was joking about fat eating. You just chose bad example comparing MJ with Barkley. He ( Barkley ) was the center, he had completely different training regime, he used a lot and I mean a lot of food supplements (to fight Shaq ), he did not do any elastic strength trainings during season ( can cause problem for big men when playing ball after that.. ), only in training camp. The different story is MJ. He needed to maintain his leaping ability, he needed to do elastic strength trainings at least twice a week ( maybe even more. ) that's why MJ still can dunk.

    Donuts. mm.
    Last edited by rocwell; Mon Aug 12th, 2013 at 02:14 PM.

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    Here's a link of interest:

    Higher glucose levels linked to dementia.

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    Quote rocwell wrote: View Post
    Dude. I was joking about fat eating. You just chose bad example comparing MJ with Barkley. He ( Barkley ) was the center, he had completely different training regime, he used a lot and I mean a lot of food supplements (to fight Shaq ), he did not do any elastic strength trainings during season ( can cause problem for big men when playing ball after that.. ), only in training camp. The different story is MJ. He needed to maintain his leaping ability, he needed to do elastic strength trainings at least twice a week ( maybe even more. ) that's why MJ still can dunk.

    Donuts. mm.
    dude... joking about barkley... I just picked the first fattie who most likely cant dunk now from MJs era that came to mind..

    more importantly..

    would you be more impressed with MJ being able to dunk... or MJ being able to program his PVR?

    I don't know many 50 yr olds who can program a PVR...

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    Exactly, and mine is strawberry or maybe under the leg tomahawk with a step ladder. It's too close to call.

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    Anybody who isn't impressed by this should tell us what their best jam is currently.
    A 360 from the freethrow line
    "You never heard of DeMar just google him, the defense don't know what to do wit him"

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    Speaking of which. You guys are old and you've probably done quite a bit of training and shit throughout your life. What kind of methods/exercises do you guys recommend for increasing vertical jump? I can barely touch the freaking mesh!
    p.s I'm about 5'10" in shoes
    "You never heard of DeMar just google him, the defense don't know what to do wit him"

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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    Speaking of which. You guys are old and you've probably done quite a bit of training and shit throughout your life. What kind of methods/exercises do you guys recommend for increasing vertical jump? I can barely touch the freaking mesh!
    p.s I'm about 5'10" in shoes
    Have you ever heard about AIR ALERT training? I've done it, believe me, after fourth week your legs will start shaking up when climbing stairs. This is great program especially for young people. ( 16+ ).

    If you're going to do this program, I'm warning you that this program isn't that easy as it looks like. After this program you'll see big increase in your vertical leap and after that you'll only need to do simple training regimes to maintain your vertical or even get better.

    If you play basketball in school, you can use this program too, just speak with the coach at first .

    EDIT: This program not only going to help your vertical leap, but it also strengthen your knees ankles and your overall physical strength. After this program my vertical leap increased by 6-7 inches ( others do better, they say. ) also my running speed was much better. You should also ask coach maybe he has this program on his hands, because I haven't paid for it, I got it from the coach.
    Last edited by rocwell; Mon Aug 12th, 2013 at 03:04 PM.

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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    Speaking of which. You guys are old and you've probably done quite a bit of training and shit throughout your life. What kind of methods/exercises do you guys recommend for increasing vertical jump? I can barely touch the freaking mesh!
    p.s I'm about 5'10" in shoes
    P90X will improve everything. The Plyometric session will help with jumping. It will kick your butt if you're doing it right.

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    P90X will improve everything. The Plyometric session will help with jumping. It will kick your butt if you're doing it right.
    Have you done it all? I think it's too tough for the kid. I'm on recovery week right now, it's crazy!
    Last edited by rocwell; Mon Aug 12th, 2013 at 03:24 PM.

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    Quote rocwell wrote: View Post
    Have you done it all? I think it's too tough for the kid. I'm on recovery week right now, it's crazy!
    I did it and gave up after a couple of weeks... it was just way too intense... from what I recall, Apollo did it right after me, but stuck with it much longer than I did...

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    Quote heinz57 wrote: View Post
    I did it and gave up after a couple of weeks... it was just way too intense... from what I recall, Apollo did it right after me, but stuck with it much longer than I did...
    You should have done pre-p90x fitness test at first. It shows if you need to work more to be able to complete P90X program.

    I'm kinda new in the gym stuff, started serious like year ago, and yes. This P90X is hell for me too.
    Last edited by rocwell; Mon Aug 12th, 2013 at 03:45 PM.

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    Quote rocwell wrote: View Post
    Have you done it all? I think it's too tough for the kid. I'm on recovery week right now, it's crazy!
    I did do it. Made it through. Then had a kid and my life got turned upside down. LOL

    Planning on doing some new program. Maybe Insanity next but I'm probably going to do a little P90x again to get myself ready for Insanity.

    In regards to doing it as a kid. I don't know. When I was in high school I played a lot of hockey. I only really trained in the off-season because I was playing 5-6 night/week in some capacity. In the off-season I jogged, inline skated, played pick-up hoops games, golf and baseball. I didn't lift much weight as kid. P90X has you lifting weights but it's your choice to do heavy lifts or not. If you want to add bulk go for the heavy weights but before you do anything ask somebody you trust who knows about training. Maybe a coach, gym teacher, friend, etc.

    Plyo doesn't really involve weights. It's just a lot of jumping essentially. If I remember correctly their are some instances when you can hold weights as you're doing some of the moves though. Plyometric training is old school, been around a long, long time and from what I learned you just need to be careful with the jumps. If you're playing hoops who should already know how to land properly to save your knees. You probably have really good shoes too so you should be set. Just talk to somebody first.

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    I did do it. Made it through. Then had a kid and my life got turned upside down. LOL

    Planning on doing some new program. Maybe Insanity next but I'm probably going to do a little P90x again to get myself ready for Insanity.
    I did Insanity as well.... also gave up... found it more intense, but actually more enjoyable... p90x was like torture... other than the yoga portions, I found no enjoyment in it at all

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    Quote heinz57 wrote: View Post
    I did Insanity as well.... also gave up... found it more intense, but actually more enjoyable... p90x was like torture... other than the yoga portions, I found no enjoyment in it at all
    Do this fit test before you do any other extreme program like p90x - http://www.teambeachbody.com/home/-/...2-3dcf82a31d23

    I've done this, P90X is still hell, but I hope I'll finish it.

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    I'm spot on 6 feet and can dunk. I haven't done any of these exercises though. I just go on a lot of runs and do dumbbell/barbell squats for lower body training.

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    Quote heinz57 wrote: View Post
    I did Insanity as well.... also gave up... found it more intense, but actually more enjoyable... p90x was like torture... other than the yoga portions, I found no enjoyment in it at all
    I finished P90X but I skipped Yoga X after the first month and did cario instead. I hated it and it was like an hour and a half long. I got great results without it.

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    Do this fit test before you do any other extreme program like p90x - http://www.teambeachbody.com/home/-/...2-3dcf82a31d23

    I've done this, P90X is still hell, but I hope I'll finish it.
    I did not do the fit test. I jumped in, it was brutal the first week but it worked in the end. I don't suggest anyone follow me but that's how it went with me... P90X is hardcore but they suggest you modify if you're not ready for something.

    Along the three months. I had to end three or four workouts early because I tweaked my hammy or my back got a little sore, etc. By the third month I had none of that working against me. It was smooth. I think it's very important that you don't work through when your body says "shut it down".

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