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Thread: ESPN 2013-14 East Standings [update: Post #86]

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    Okafor is not nearly what he once was but he was still a contributor. Looks like he has becoming an expiring contract with little to no value.

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/okafor-out...herniated-disk

    Should also help Toronto keep ahead of Washington. Given full health I would give the nod to Washington but if they start dropping bodies - and one big one is gone - I give edge to Toronto.
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    dont understand why people still rank atlanta so high

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    dont understand why people still rank atlanta so high
    My opinion is because they essentially swapped Smith and Zaza for Millsap and Brand.

    Personally I think Smith is more 'exciting' but Millsap is a better player. For the stat geeks among us:
    http://www.thenbageek.com/players/compare?utf8=%E2%9C%93&player_ids[]=6&player_ids[]=334
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    Atlanta has been consistently making the playoffs, so barring any freak injuries, they should be one of the teams making it. Millsap and Horford will be one tough front line

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    Quote phez wrote: View Post
    dont understand why people still rank atlanta so high
    Horford is also extremely underrated. Best center in the league under Dwight IMO.

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    Do you think Horford would be much better on a team where he can actually play PF?

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    Miami
    Chicago
    Indiana
    Brooklyn
    New York
    Atlanta
    Washington
    Cleveland
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    Detroit
    Toronto
    Milwaukee
    Boston
    Charlotte
    Orlando
    Philadelphia


    That was ESPN projection in August.

    What do you think now 3 games in?
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Miami
    Chicago
    Indiana
    Brooklyn
    New York
    Atlanta
    Washington
    Cleveland
    --------------
    Detroit
    Toronto
    Milwaukee
    Boston
    Charlotte
    Orlando
    Philadelphia


    That was ESPN projection in August.

    What do you think now 3 games in?
    Still too early to tell for me. I think New York will be worst than many people think and i'm not high on Washington either. I can see New York fall as low as 7th and i think (hope) Toronto will grab one of the last 3 spots

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Miami
    Chicago
    Indiana
    Brooklyn
    New York
    Atlanta
    Washington
    Cleveland
    --------------
    Detroit
    Toronto
    Milwaukee
    Boston
    Charlotte
    Orlando
    Philadelphia


    That was ESPN projection in August.

    What do you think now 3 games in?
    Don't think Washington or Cleveland will make it. I think Detroit takes their place, and MAYBE us. But it seems more and more likely we'll have to blow it up eventually. SO if we do, then Wsh or Cle will take our spot.
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    Quote KazanTheMan wrote: View Post
    Don't think Washington or Cleveland will make it. I think Detroit takes their place, and MAYBE us. But it seems more and more likely we'll have to blow it up eventually. SO if we do, then Wsh or Cle will take our spot.
    I think Detroit is in. Josh Smith found his 3 point shot (and spacing) it would appear.

    Washington, Cleveland, and Toronto (minus a blow up) are likely going for that last spot.
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    We're one week in and he went 3-11 his last game. He may have space to shoot them, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. Zaza Pachulia is tied for the lead in FT% at 100%.

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    3 games is a very small sample size.. but the way things are going I would think that Cleveland, Washington and Toronto will have the hardest times getting to the playoffs.

    Irving is great but can he sustain an 82 game schedule? TT is looking good, but no one else is really shining. I don't see Bynum playing more than 50 games.

    In Washington, I'm becoming less and less of a Wall believer. He got his shiny new contract but its looking like a bad value contract. If Nene can remain healthy and Beals returns to form from last year then they have a shot. But it's not a guarantee.

    With Toronto I think it comes back to what MU will do. Is he going to blow it up, tinker, or let it be? If he let's it be will Gay be willing to pass the ball when he gets it or will he remain a black hole? They are 2/3 right now but wait until they play the big boys. If they tinker then the only assets he really has are draft picks. Would the fan base be happy to see a pick go to another team? I know that I wouldn't be happy... unless they can get a young all-star talent coming back who has multiple years left on his contact (or will soon be an RFA).

    Could MU make the team better this season by trading part of their current core without including a pick and JV, but by also keeping their flexibility in tact for the short future? If he can then I think MLSE should start getting some bronze so that they can start building a statue.

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    Here's an interesting tidbit.......

    The over/under for the season by Vegas for Philadelphia before the season was 16.5. They are 3 - 0 of course. I wonder what it is today?

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    Charlotte was 7 -5 to start the season last year and then lost 18 straight. Vegas is not quite as fickle as your average internet forum poster.

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    Quote Mess wrote: View Post
    Charlotte was 7 -5 to start the season last year and then lost 18 straight. Vegas is not quite as fickle as your average internet forum poster.
    Truer words have never been spoken.... but even a broken clock is right two times a day.
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    Charlotte was 7 -5 to start the season last year and then lost 18 straight. Vegas is not quite as fickle as your average internet forum poster.
    Unsure what you mean.... if betting is left open that line on the Sixers changes.

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    That's what I mean...does it change?

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    Quote Mess wrote: View Post
    That's what I mean...does it change?
    of course it changes.

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    Yeah I misunderstood. It would change because suddenly everyone is betting the over. But my point was that MCW and the rest won't keep it up and the line may turn out to be accurate...which was not what you were saying.

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    I am guessing here but it would have to because a boatload of cash would go to the "over" (at least by Philly fans) which would necessitate change. No different I would think from how betting lines move on say football games during the week to balance out bets made because of eg. occurrence of special circumstances like an injury. Of course the bets are associated with the line at the time of bet placement.

    ps...I tried to verify this but cannot seem to find the current line on the Sixers.

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