Ughh....this back and forth pseudo philosophical discussion is getting mind-numbingly repetitive. Why can't this be November???? WHY????
It's about winning basketball games, and subsequently, championships. It's not an asset management competition.
Yes if you cannot find good deals for them you could look to trade other assets in order to acquire player(s) that would make the team more competitive. Just like we might be looking to trade Gay/Lowry, other teams who are currently/in the future could be considering rebuilding could be looking to move their players for picks, expirings and prospects as well.
Stupid tanking threads..ugh
Sometimes, I like to buy a book on CD and listen to it, while reading music.
This was an interesting thread. Should've kept the tanking discussion in the other thread, imo.
Lowry/DeMar/Gay/Amir vs. Lawson/Iggy/Gallo/Faried is basically a wash offensively, I don't think anyone here is gonna argue that hopefully. Lowry is a better defender and rebounder than Lawson, Iggy is slightly better than Gay on D, Gallinari and DeRozan are both mediocre, Amir is a better defender than Faried but worse on the glass, and Koufos is about even with JV as a defender and rebounder.
Then you're talking about Jonas vs. Koufos on offense... let's be real here who's the better offensive player? Especially next season for Toronto?
Admittedly Denver's depth and the elevation allow them to maximize this philosophy better than we could, but we don't need to copy them. This thread was about attacking the rim more, and I was giving an example of a team that successfully uses that strategy.
Last edited by Fully; Thu Aug 15th, 2013 at 12:39 PM.
In the meaningless stretch you referred to we played:
Chicago (2x): Had 3 starters (Deng & Noah out), Butler and Boozer played over 40 minutes, pretty sure they were still trying to win since they only finished 1 game ahead of ATL. For the second game Deng was back (34 mins) and we beat them again. Valanciunas did not play in the 2nd game.
Brooklyn: Nets missing G-Force, but aside from that fully healthy. We had 8 active players. No Ross or Val, Acy was the first guy off the bench.
It was only really a meaningless last 2 games with Boston/Atlanta playing their starters less than 20 minutes.
- You don't think Jonas will be much better than his rookie year?
- You don't think Ross will be better than his rookie year?
- You don't think Acy will be better?
- You don't think DeMar's work will bring more improvements?
- You don't think Bargs departure will make a positive difference? Were you campaigning for him to be kept, or campaigning that his departure would be addition by subtraction?
- You don't think Novak's 3 pt shooting changes a thing?
- You don't think Psycho T makes our front line a lot tougher?
- You don't think Fields can be much more effective with his nerve damage fixed?
- You don't think work over the summer, plus training camp with his new team will make any difference at all with Gay?
- You don't think Casey being given free reins, and not constrained by BC makes a difference?
I disagree with all of those. It remains to be seen what difference all of these things will make, but to keep chanting this "34 win team" refrain is nothing short of kindergarten logic.
I know what I'm about to say is ridiculously simplistic, but it avoids debating hypotheticals.
The Raptors are a non-playoff team until proven otherwise.
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