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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    I do think it's possible to find a 2014 pick for Gay somewhere, even a 1st rounder. It would absolutely have to come from a team with an extra one. This to me is what makes Charlotte a possible trading partner...and I guess in that case Gordon could be on the table, but I still think it would not be with intent to really use him at all. It would be like "if you want to come and be around the team and be part of the system, you're welcome to, but if not, stay away until we trade you or you're a free agent". I can't see Gordon being in the team's plans in any way, even in the short term, unless Buycks, Augustin and Ross are ALL having horrible seasons...which is a definite possibility.
    No, he wouldn't.

    The CBA places $$ requirements on trades. It just so happens Gordon for Gay works straight up but you would have to include picks and young players to make it worth Toronto's time.
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    How do you guys keep track of the draft picks, in terms of what team has what picks? Is there a good site that summarizes this stuff?

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    Quote JawsGT wrote: View Post
    How do you guys keep track of the draft picks, in terms of what team has what picks? Is there a good site that summarizes this stuff?
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+draft+picks+nba+teams+own
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    Quote JawsGT wrote: View Post
    How do you guys keep track of the draft picks, in terms of what team has what picks? Is there a good site that summarizes this stuff?
    Also this:

    http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2013/08...analysis-index
    Definition of Statistics: The science of producing unreliable facts from reliable figures.

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    I had no idea this existed. You just opened up a whole new world of sarcastic goodness for me to live by! And for that, I thank you.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    I had no idea this existed. You just opened up a whole new world of sarcastic goodness for me to live by! And for that, I thank you.
    lol, same here. precious

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    Quote p00ka wrote: View Post
    lol, same here. precious
    I've already used it 8 times on my co-workers. Pure gold!
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    personally, i dont mind the bantering as long as there's no cursing, racial and gender slurs.

    when somebody calls me an idiot, it riles me to do more research to prove that im not an idiot, and make the other person look more of an idiot than he thinks of me.

    I might be called an idiot for this right now but i dont think there's anybody "available" or would be made available come trade deadline that has the same line as Gay - 20pts, 6rebs, 3asts, 2stls or Demar - 18pts, 4rebs, 3asts.

    So if the raps decide to trade them, might be an easy sell (albeit contracts), or if they decide to keep them, then the team can make use of them that other teams dont have.

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    This is genius!!! Living in a country where people don't really know that pretty much the answer to any question can be found on the internet can be frustrated. My wife and I have started to use the the acronym J.F.G.I. (Just F*cking Google It!)

    When I show my wife this she might laugh soo hard she pees herself a little bit. Which would be awesome.
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    Quote JawsGT wrote: View Post
    How do you guys keep track of the draft picks, in terms of what team has what picks? Is there a good site that summarizes this stuff?
    http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/dra...rafts/detailed

    This one does a pretty good job explaining all the various conditions on traded draft picks.

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    Not really sure where to put this so.........

    Memphis unloaded Tony Wroten, Jr. for a 2014 2nd round pick top 50 protected?!?!?!


    The Memphis Grizzlies traded guard Tony Wroten, a 2012 first-round NBA draft pick, to the Philadelphia 76ers for a future second-round selection, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

    Wroten, 20, was the Grizzlies' 25th overall pick. He averaged 2.6 points and 1.2 rebounds in 7.8 minutes per game.

    Philadelphia is still working to meet the minimum team salary requirement of $52.811 million as it works to construct a roster before the start of training camp in September.

    Wroten, a 6-foot-5 left-hander, left Washington in 2012 after an excellent freshman season in which he was the Huskies' second-leading scorer at 16 points per game.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--gr...192040315.html
    Wow.

    I'm shocked.
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Not really sure where to put this so.........

    Memphis unloaded Tony Wroten, Jr. for a 2014 2nd round pick top 50 protected?!?!?!
    Never got a chance to show his stuff in Memphis.

    If anything, this situation is better for him development-wise. Their PG rotation is currently a rookie and now a sophomore. If MCW can't live up to expectations, Wroten will get even more pt than he already will as a backup.

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    I love what Philly is doing this year.

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    Quote Fully wrote: View Post
    I love what Philly is doing this year.
    They'll be even better with Wiggins next year

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    Quote Fully wrote: View Post
    Aldridge would be an awesome fit in the lineup, there's no doubt. The obvious problem is how you land him.

    Wasn't there a rumour that the Cavs were offering the #1, Thompson and Waiters for him and got denied before the draft? It's pretty hard to fathom the Raps putting together a better offer than that without making JV available.
    I love Aldridge too but not likely to happen.

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    Quote CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
    http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/dra...rafts/detailed

    This one does a pretty good job explaining all the various conditions on traded draft picks.
    Thank you sir. that was two decent suggestions anyways. But I guess I should be wondering why I should ask any actual person a question when there is a google around?

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    Quote Axel wrote: View Post
    They'll be even better with Wiggins next year
    They have a higher chance of picking 4th. (assuming they finish last)

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    UPDATE: Phoenix trades Caron Butler to Milwaukee in exchange for Ish Smith and Vyacheslav Kravtsov.

    It's not a bad move for either team, I think. Milwaukee can afford Butler's lousy salary at this point, and having Butler gives them more flexibility to play Ilyasova at power forward on an as-needed basis. Phoenix sheds Butler's money in exchange for peanuts - which will let them waive Beasley if they decide to go that route - and Kravtsov still has upside.

    From Toronto's perspective, I think Milwaukee is now much less interested in trading for Rudy Gay, but still would be interested in Kyle, as point guard is still their weakest position by far.

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    I didn't think these thoughts merited a thread but not sure where to put it, so I came here......


    1) When looking around the league, combing each team's salary page at Mark Deeks' site ShamSports.com, there are not a lot of those really, really bad contracts anymore.... well, not ones that go beyond 2014-15 (i.e. most bad deals have just 2 years left on them).

    What are the worst non-expiring contracts in the league?

    Landry Fields, 2 years, $13M
    Gerald Wallace, 3 years, $31M
    Carlos Boozer, 2 years, $32M
    Amar'e Stoudemire, 2 years, $43M
    Jason Richardson, 2 years, $13M
    Jeremy Lin, 2 years, $20M
    Eric Gordon, 3 years, $45M

    Did I miss any? (No extensions included, like DeRozan, or contracts signed this summer because we don't know how they play out, like Evans).

    It would appear the new CBA and luxury tax has scared the majority of the league in to smaller contracts with less years and more scrutiny. What do you think?


    2) There is going to be a lot of salary cap money to be spent in the next few years.

    Looking at 2014, nearly half the league has significant cap space (click link on bottom - lots of unknowns with options, resignings could change things):

    The NBA’s early cap projection for the 2014-15 season is $62.1 million.
    The NBA has projected a tax threshold of $75.7 million for the 2014-15 season. Like the cap number, it can be only estimated with the actual figure announced in early July.
    Under-Cap Teams

    The following 14 teams project to have cap room next summer based on these early projections:

    Los Angeles Lakers — $46-52 million
    Philadelphia 76ers — $34 million
    Dallas Mavericks — $31 million
    Utah Jazz — $23-43 million
    Phoenix Suns — $19.5 million
    Charlotte Bobcats — $19 million
    Washington Wizards — $15 million.
    Atlanta Hawks — $12 million
    Detroit Pistons — $12 million
    Milwaukee Bucks — $12 million
    Golden State Warriors — $10 million
    Toronto Raptors — $8-26 million
    San Antonio Spurs — $7 million
    Cleveland Cavaliers — 6.5-$24 million
    The biggest free agent could be LeBron James, a certainty if he chooses to opt out of his contract with the Miami HEAT. Carmelo Anthony, of the New York Knicks, may be a lock to forgo the final year on his deal — although re-signing with New York is certainly not out of the question.

    Indiana Pacers’ star Paul George is eligible for an extension until the 2013-14 season starts. If he doesn’t receive one, he’ll be a restricted free agent next summer.

    Other big name free agents will likely include Kobe Bryant, Dirk Nowitzki, Pau Gasol, Rudy Gay (player option or PO), Chris Bosh (early termination option or ETO), Dwyane Wade (ETO), Luol Deng, Danny Granger, Andrew Bogut, Paul Pierce, Greg Monroe (restricted or RFA), Zach Randolph (PO), DeMarcus Cousins (RFA), Kyle Lowry, Derrick Favors (RFA) and Gordon Hayward (RFA) — among many others.
    http://www.hoopsworld.com/looking-to...14s-salary-cap
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