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    Default Why Do You (Personally) Care So Much About The Raptors?

    Inspired by a Matt52 recent post(which was inspired by a Karl Marx post)

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    If Raptors finish with 8 less wins than Washington or 5 less wins than Minnesota, they will be the worst team in the league since 2001-2002.


    Moments like this I ask myself why I care so much about the Raptors.... lol
    He's more than likely only semi-serious. But, it brings up an interesting topic. Especially since this year and the next have the potential to be real stinkers.

    So, as the headline asks;

    Why do you care so much about the raptors?
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    I ask myself this all the time lol. I'm not a TO sports fan in general...I hate the Leafs and have no ties to the city. However, I do love the game of basketball and I believe that having a team in Canada is a great thing, and what better place to have it then in TO. Also, having a team in Canada means I get to watch more NBA games so thats important to me too, and it also increases exposure of the game in Canada and I want basketball to improve in this country. I guess I kinda feel like I have to, but for whatever unknown reason, I want this team to succeed. An NBa championship in Canada would be as satisfying as a World Series victory was!!

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    It's kind of like watching a crappy movie that seemed promising based on the trailers. You feel the need to see how it ends because you're already invested.
    "I don't lie. I willfully participate in a campaign of misinformation." - Fox Mulder

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    It's kind of like watching a crappy movie that seemed promising based on the trailers. You feel the need to see how it ends because you're already invested.
    A movie is 2 hours, then you don't have to hear about it again. If it was a stinker, it's probably not even going to be broadcasted on regular tv. It just fades into oblivion. This does not happen with sports teams using all the toronto sports teams as prime examples.

    Also, movies usually end before you do. Usually not the case with sports teams. Which I suppose the loyalty and "invest" is what keeps it going.

    I kind of get where you're coming from. Just a bit confusing.


    If I were to answer this question, specifically focusing on the raptors. It's like somebody mentioned, it'd be great for canada to win a championship. You can be a fan of any other team, but there won't be anything like the electricity here when that day finally comes.

    I remember when the Canucks were in the cup final a few years ago and it was fresh off winning the gold medal at the 2010 olympics. There was nothing better, even if you weren't an original fan of the team. It was like if you were Canadian, you had permission granted to hop on the fucking bandwagon!

    It was a great feeling from coast-to-coast or at least it seemed. I don't know if the NBA or the raptors have that kind of draw in canada. But, if the world team starts getting good and then the raptors. Basketball will be at an all-time high in Canada and it'll be awesome!
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    Quote LBF wrote: View Post
    A movie is 2 hours...
    Have you not seen the LOTR Director's cut? Now there's 12 hours I'll never get back....
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Have you not seen the LOTR Director's cut? Now there's 12 hours I'll never get back....
    fuck that. I couldn't get more than halfway through those
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Have you not seen the LOTR Director's cut? Now there's 12 hours I'll never get back....
    it was all worth it
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    I love basketball
    I live in Toronto
    Raptors play basketball in Toronto



    GOTTA SUPPORT THE TEAM!!

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    Quote Letter N wrote: View Post
    I love basketball
    I live in Toronto
    Raptors play basketball in Toronto



    GOTTA SUPPORT THE TEAM!!
    Its really that simple. Love all sports, but bball the most by a margin. Always said growing up playing ball that I would have seasons tickets for my team when I could afford it. Not quite there, but have had quarter seasons for the last 7 years or so.
    Throw in that the team came into existence right around the time that I could truly form my own sports opinions (ie I was brought up in London Ontario to love Detriot teams, hate Toronto teams ... but none of that applied to the Raps because they were new, whereas it did / does to the Leafs/Jays and the CFL doesnt count).
    Bottom line .. the Raps have been a relatively horrible existence, but in some weird way that has made me even more loyal to them than any other team .. not sure that makes sense, but its true. I guess its cause they are the only local team that are truly "mine".. not thrust upon me

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    Its really that simple. Love all sports, but bball the most by a margin. Always said growing up playing ball that I would have seasons tickets for my team when I could afford it. Not quite there, but have had quarter seasons for the last 7 years or so.
    Throw in that the team came into existence right around the time that I could truly form my own sports opinions (ie I was brought up in London Ontario to love Detriot teams, hate Toronto teams ... but none of that applied to the Raps because they were new, whereas it did / does to the Leafs/Jays and the CFL doesnt count).
    Bottom line .. the Raps have been a relatively horrible existence, but in some weird way that has made me even more loyal to them than any other team .. not sure that makes sense, but its true. I guess its cause they are the only local team that are truly "mine".. not thrust upon me
    I find it kind of sad that that's how you feel about early experiences in being a sports fan. One of the first things I would have mentioned when i touched on psychologists evaluating the world of being a sports fan, is the great value that can be obtained from shared experiences between a parent/child rooting for their team and especially shared time going to games. I'm sorry you didn't experience what I did.

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    I find it kind of sad that that's how you feel about early experiences in being a sports fan. One of the first things I would have mentioned when i touched on psychologists evaluating the world of being a sports fan, is the great value that can be obtained from shared experiences between a parent/child rooting for their team and especially shared time going to games. I'm sorry you didn't experience what I did.
    As i re-read the post .. I can see how it comes off as emotionally scarred as if I was tied down and forced to watch Tiger game replays until I was blue in the face! Obviously not the case, and in fact all of my childhood memories of attending and watching games with my parents are amazing (albeit eye opening walking the streets of Detriot and hearing the drunks at Tiger stadium cursing a blue streak when I was like 10 years old!).

    My point though .. is that for me, the Raps were the first team that I could choose to root for without any pre-conceived notions. To me thats a huge thing. I wasnt jumping on any one else's bandwagon. It wasnt possible for someone to be a bigger Raps fan me. I could choose to live or die with this team .. but it wasnt because Michael Jordan won six titles with them before I started following them or because Bill Russell led them to dominance. It wasnt because my parents were fans and passed it on (as many Cowboys and Steelers fans would be today, given the strength of those franchises in the 60s/70s). To me that had (and has) an extra special appeal beyond being the local basketball team, who I would be a big fan of one way or the other ..

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    Quote mountio wrote: View Post
    Bottom line .. the Raps have been a relatively horrible existence, but in some weird way that has made me even more loyal to them than any other team .. not sure that makes sense, but its true. I guess its cause they are the only local team that are truly "mine".. not thrust upon me
    it's like any relationship... anyone can survive through the good times... but the strength and conviction of a relationship can only really be measured when the times aren't so good... you don't really know if somebody is a keeper unless you can survive the BS and come out of it in a stronger position...

    it's all good to have a chick with tits for days and an ass so cocked it makes shelves jealous... but how committed are you going to be when that all goes south?

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    they're my team. period.

    good or bad, your team is your team. if I even entertained not being a fan because of frustration, i'd consider myself a fairweather fan

    I even still consider myself a sonics fan despite the fact that they don't actually exist anymore.

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    I love the game, and I've learned to love this team! Of course, living close is the biggest factor.

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    The short answer is that I have too much spare time.

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    I'm a huge sports fan and am typically loyal to "my" team, regardless of the sport or my team's success. I have been an NBA basketball fan since the mid 80's, becoming a fan of the Bulls thanks to the dynamic high-flying antics of a young player named Michael Jordan, while all my friends cheered for Magic's Lakers, Larry's Celtics, Isaiah's Pistons or Dominique's Hawks. I was initially faced with disappointment, thanks to back-to-back conference losses to the Pistons, but stayed loyal and was rewarded six-fold. When it was announced that Toronto was getting a team (I grew up in southern Ontario), they immediately became my 1A team. Once Jordan retired for the second time and the Bulls' dynasty was broken up, I shifted my loyalty to my new hometeam. My support and loyalty only grew once I moved to Toronto, where I witnessed the team's greatest successs closeup for 8 seasons. Even after moving out here to Calgary, the Raptors are still "my" team.

    I think being a true fan is akin to marriage; through good times and bad, in sickness and in health, through lockouts and strikes, through rebuilds and builds... stay loyal to your team. It will also make enjoying success that much sweeter... assuming it will actually happen within our lifetimes! lol

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    Quote heinz57 wrote: View Post
    they're my team. period.

    good or bad, your team is your team. if I even entertained not being a fan because of frustration, i'd consider myself a fairweather fan
    Quote CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
    I think being a true fan is akin to marriage; through good times and bad, in sickness and in health, through lockouts and strikes, through rebuilds and builds... stay loyal to your team. It will also make enjoying success that much sweeter... assuming it will actually happen within our lifetimes! lol
    These!! It's all about attachment and loyalty, through the bad as well as the good. Fair weather fans come and go, but in the world I grew up in, true fans stick with their team. Look at Chicago Cubs fans. It's been over 100 years, yet 3rd and 4th generation fans keep streaming into Wrigley Field at a rate of 35-40,000/game, year after year.

    As far as "care so much", that gets into reasoning that psychologists have been pondering forever about sports fandom. There's multitude of different reasons why fans care so much, but it usually boils down to escape from the doldrums of real life, coupled with new hope at the beginning of each season.

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    Quote LBF wrote: View Post
    Why do you care so much about the raptors?
    Wouldn't it be cool to have a Canadian team win the NBA Championship?

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    I think what made me a huge fan was 2000-01. I've been a fan since the franchise started but I was there for that playoff run. I remember random fans at the ACC hugging and dancing in the aisles as Vince rained threes on the Sixers. I remember travelling to Philly for Game 7 and getting pelted with beer and pop and peanuts and hot dogs. I remember Oakley's costly behind the back passes and his brutal missed layup (the biggest missed layup in Raptors history). I remember standing right behind VC as he rose up, watching the shot and thinking we were going to the NBA finals....

    That run was the most I've ever cared about a team. So, even though the organization has made me dead inside in the years since, I'll always cheer for them cause of that month.

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    Quote slaw wrote: View Post
    I think what made me a huge fan was 2000-01. I've been a fan since the franchise started but I was there for that playoff run. I remember random fans at the ACC hugging and dancing in the aisles as Vince rained threes on the Sixers. I remember travelling to Philly for Game 7 and getting pelted with beer and pop and peanuts and hot dogs. I remember Oakley's costly behind the back passes and his brutal missed layup (the biggest missed layup in Raptors history). I remember standing right behind VC as he rose up, watching the shot and thinking we were going to the NBA finals....

    That run was the most I've ever cared about a team. So, even though the organization has made me dead inside in the years since, I'll always cheer for them cause of that month.
    That series vs Philly was electric....game 3 especially. If Raptors ever got back to that point ....wow5

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