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    Default Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

    Ben Affleck will don Batman's cape and cowl.

    Warner Bros. announced Thursday that the 41-year-old actor-director will star as a new incarnation of the Dark Knight in a film bringing Batman and Superman together.

    The studio said Affleck will star opposite 30-year-old Henry Cavill, who will reprise his role as Superman from "Man of Steel." The movie will also feature "Man of Steel" stars Amy Adams as Lois Lane, Laurence Fishburne as Perry White and Diane Lane as Martha Kent.

    The big-screen DC Comics superhero mash-up was first revealed by director Zack Snyder at last month's Comic-Con International in San Diego.

    Snyder, who will direct the sequel written by "Man of Steel" screenwriter David S. Goyer, said in a statement that Affleck will provide an "interesting counter-balance" to Cavill's Clark Kent.

    "(Affleck) has the acting chops to create a layered portrayal of a man who is older and wiser than Clark Kent and bears the scars of a seasoned crime fighter, but retain the charm that the world sees in billionaire Bruce Wayne," said Snyder. "I can't wait to work with him."

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    What do you guys think about this?

    I personally think it can work, but I think this could ruin any of the positive cred he's built up over the last ... since Jennifer Lopez.
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    I think I like Ben Affleck better as Batman/Bruce Wayne rather than Christian Bale.

    I can imagine that Ben will be decent in the movie. I just hope he doesn't do that Batman voice from the Christian Bale films, excessively.

    Overall its kinda of a "meh".

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    Christian Bale.


    Affleck will suck.

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    What do you guys think about this?

    I personally think it can work, but I think this could ruin any of the positive cred he's built up over the last ... since Jennifer Lopez.
    my initial reaction was "WTF?!?!?! FUCK YOU DC COMICS... FUCK YOU RIGHT UP YOUR ASSES"

    but then I thought about it for a few minutes, and completely 180ed on it..

    i'm totally cool with Affleck..

    most people are basing their anger on his history as an actor... Armageddon, Pearl Harbour, Daredevil, Gigli, etc...

    but when you actually think about it... that shit was like a decade ago...

    if you look at his recent work, dude has been absolutely brilliant... he's elevated himself almost to the point where I look forward to anything he's involved with for the simple fact that he's involved

    so instead of focusing on the crap he did years ago... now i'm looking at it like this...

    the director, writer, and star of the best movie in 2012 is going to be playing batman.... that's kinda awesome

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    Well I only compare to the last Batman, and honestly, Bale was fantastic... he won't be topped.

    As for Argo....hahaha come on Heinze. Really, the best?



    Ben will be ok, I admit it, but he won't be as good as bale for me...but if he is....great!!

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    Reading about Ben Affleck being Batman was a big kick in the balls to me. I think its a ridiculous idea. He was one of the last guys I'd ever want playing Batman.. yeah I've seen some of his recent flicks but still he just doesn't do it for me.

    Wayne is supposed to be a suave playboy, kind of like Bond. He's supposed to be really intelligent yet dark and brooding. I just don't see Affleck pulling it off.. and on top of that he has to play against a younger Cavill which doesn't make sense. Aren't Clark/Bruce supposed to be around the same age?

    I think they screwed the pooch on this one. I'll still watch the move since I'm a huge fan of Superman but I am really disappointed.

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    Quote Craig wrote: View Post
    Well I only compare to the last Batman, and honestly, Bale was fantastic... he won't be topped.

    As for Argo....hahaha come on Heinze. Really, the best?



    Ben will be ok, I admit it, but he won't be as good as bale for me...but if he is....great!!
    Will he be as good as Bale, probably not. But does he need to be? I don't think so..

    Man of Steel was, in my opinion, inferior to the Nolan Batman movies, but still a great watch... and to be perfectly honest, I don't think Zack Snyder would be able to handle Bale adequately...

    And they've said it's a different Batman.. it's not the same universe as the Nolan Batman... so im cool with it

    Argo was the best movie of 2012.... according to the Academy... lol

    I liked Argo ALOT... but the best movie of 2012, in my opinion, wasn't even nominated (Perks of Being a Wallflower)

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    Aren't Clark/Bruce supposed to be around the same age?
    depends which timeline you prescribe to... it varies..

    considering comic books absolute disregard for continuity.. EVER.. there really is no one age difference you can commit to (unless you're an angry fan boy, and are grasping for reasons to be mad)

    It ranges from Batman being slightly older (2-3 years) than Supes... to Batman being much older than Supes

    I've personally always felt that Batman being much older made the most sense... having had more costume experience on a street crime level in a more shady city explains his cynicism towards Clark's na´ve sense of morality

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    Quote heinz57 wrote: View Post
    I've personally always felt that Batman being much older made the most sense... having had more costume experience on a street crime level in a more shady city explains his cynicism towards Clark's na´ve sense of morality
    And this is exactly the angle I believe they will be playing up...
    And again, looking at this quote from Snyder,
    "(Affleck) has the acting chops to create a layered portrayal of a man who is older and wiser than Clark Kent and bears the scars of a seasoned crime fighter, but retain the charm that the world sees in billionaire Bruce Wayne," said Snyder. "I can't wait to work with him."
    Snyder agrees.


    In Frank Millers Dark knight Returns, it worked masterfully, and they've already said that this is the book they will use as inspiration. Frank Miller is already helping with the script I believe.
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    Further more, I could see Affleck doing quite well in the role of "Patriarch" for the JLA, ala Robert Downey Jr./Iron Man is for the Avengers.
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    i'll say this much about Affleck... at his best, he's a phenomenal actor... the big problem with him is nobody can let go of the string of shitpiles he's done...

    I remember, back in his heyday... I cant remember where exactly... maybe on inside the actors studio or something.. he made a joke about a conversation he had with matt damon along the lines of "I told him.. first you do a payday movie.. then you do the smaller arthouse movie for your friends.. you have to rotate them"

    since the whole j-lo thing imploded in his face... I have nothing but good things to say about his work though

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    anyone know if this is gonna be a Justice League type thing or a Batman vs. Superman type movie?

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    Quote Xixak wrote: View Post
    anyone know if this is gonna be a Justice League type thing or a Batman vs. Superman type movie?
    Man of Steel 2 is supposed to be the first meeting of Batman & Superman.... followed by a Flash movie.. and then eventually a JLA movie

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    for some reason I chose to wear a Superman logo shirt today...

    great... now everyone who passes by me thinks im a fanexpo nerd.

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    Did no one involved in this production see Daredevil?

    Also, why would Affleck do this? He just finally got over his string of failures and did good stuff like Gone Baby Gone, The Town and Argo. Why set himself up like this?

    Well, I guess Batman always trends toward camp. The good kind (Adam West) and the bad kind (the Clooneyfied horror Batman and Robin). We'll see how it goes. They should just go full on 60s with this and cast Mark Wahlberg as Superman. The first Southey Justice League, brah!

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    The world is going to end!

    I dont even care about Batman movies..
    The Baltic Beast is unstoppable!

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    Quote slaw wrote: View Post
    Did no one involved in this production see Daredevil?

    Also, why would Affleck do this? He just finally got over his string of failures and did good stuff like Gone Baby Gone, The Town and Argo. Why set himself up like this?
    Well if you've seen Gone Baby Gone, The Town and Argo, then you already know that having seen Daredevil 10 years ago (and it was filmed in like 2001) has no bearing on what Affleck can bring to the role in the Present Day.

    And I remember a lot of people saying the same thing about RDJ for the Iron Man role. So I say lets see what he can bring to the role before we dismiss it.

    Quote slaw wrote: View Post
    Well, I guess Batman always trends toward camp. The good kind (Adam West) and the bad kind (the Clooneyfied horror Batman and Robin). We'll see how it goes. They should just go full on 60s with this and cast Mark Wahlberg as Superman. The first Southey Justice League, brah!
    Well Bales version of Batman was about as anti-camp as possible, and the latest Man of Steel was far from it as well; so there's that. And if what they are saying is true (basing the Batman story arch/role off of Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns) then it should be a pretty serious performance from Affleck, with them playing up the "Playboy" role of Bruce Wayne a little more than Bale did; ala Tony Stark.
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    Some quotes that I found interesting:

    the antagonistic Batman/Superman relationship from Frank Miller's seminal comic The Dark Knight Returns would inform the new film.
    Chances are the character will be much different from the one in the Christopher Nolan and Tim Burton movies, Sciretta says, and Affleck could thrive in the role of an older, more conflicted vigilante millionaire.

    "In Man of Steel, Superman was so careless in that final battle, letting much of Metropolis end in ruin, allowing so many civilian casualties," Sciretta says. "The fate of Metropolis was a big problem a lot of fans had with the film, and I expect that that destruction will be a huge part of why Batman will be hunting down Superman in this next film."
    From a business perspective for Warner Bros., "it makes a lot of sense to have Affleck in that fold not only as an actor but possibly as a director in future installments," says Jeff Bock, senior box-office analyst for Exhibitor Relations. "When you look at the big picture, it's exactly the right choice."
    "He can pull off the emotion of the father issues and the loss issues and the isolation without coming off like a jerk the way that Bale's Bruce Wayne tended to come off," Beggs says. "That was a huge dichotomy and a big gulf between the Batman and the Bruce Wayne characters there, and I see Affleck able to pull off a tighter balance between debonair and then also formidable as a fighter."
    "It'll be undeniably a challenge for Cavill onscreen to do the scene work with Affleck," Beggs says. "But Affleck's also proven that he's an actor's actor and an actor's director. He can bring a lot of knowledge and storytelling wisdom."
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    The quote about Superman being so reckless and destroying Metropolis and a really interesting angle for them to play. It got me thinking.. so I did some googling, and apparently, someone hired a consulting firm to estimate the damages caused by Supe vs Zod...
    BuzzFeed reached out to Charles Watson at Watson Technical Consulting to determine just how much damage was done the "Man of Steel's" central city. According to the WTC team's calculations, the impact of Superman and Zod's fight "seemed to be similar to an air burst from a 20kt nuclear explosion in terms of shock effects, but without the radiation or thermal effects."

    All told, WTC estimated that 129,000 people would be confirmed dead after the battle, 250,000 would be missing (though most would ultimately be found deceased) and 1 million residents would be injured. In terms of monetary cost, Metropolis is looking at $750 billion in physical damage and $2 trillion in overall economic impact. Let's hope Superman also has a super credit card to help the city recover.
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    This fan made trailer is pretty cool:
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    Apparently Bryan Cranston will play Lex Luthor. Epic.

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