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Thread: SI: Raps "due for most constructive season without making playoffs"

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    Quote Fully wrote: View Post
    I'm not saying that those games should have been easy wins for the Raptors. The fact that they weren't is kind of the whole point.

    For the record I think the team will flirt with 40 wins next year if they play the season out, but I'm convinced that the tear down is inevitable (which the SI writer seems to agree with, except he calls it "personnel cycling"). I just don't think Raptor fans should be insulted or outraged when people refer to them as a 34 win team. Beyond the fact that the team actually only won 34 games last year, without the late season winning streak their record after the Gay trade would be on the same pace.
    That and your other point was a great one - they also had a 5-15 stretch with Gay and a 12-11 stretch with Calderon at the point. Those sample sizes are just too small - you can make whatever point you want.

    I'd be fine with just saying "There's more talent on this roster than a 34-win team." With training camp and Casey hounding on the D again, they ought to be a bit better at least.

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    Quote Fully wrote: View Post
    I'm not saying that those games should have been easy wins for the Raptors. The fact that they weren't is kind of the whole point.

    For the record I think the team will flirt with 40 wins next year if they play the season out, but I'm convinced that the tear down is inevitable (which the SI writer seems to agree with, except he calls it "personnel cycling"). I just don't think Raptor fans should be insulted or outraged when people refer to them as a 34 win team. Beyond the fact that the team actually only won 34 games last year, without the late season winning streak their record after the Gay trade would be on the same pace.
    Haha, passive-agressive PC bullshit.

    You do make a good point. I'm ever the optimist so I think our ceiling this year is a bit higher but I wouldn't be surprised at all if we stumble out the gates and Ujiri drops a grenade in the locker room.... after Val has left.
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    ... after Val has left.
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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    No but thats not the point. This Roster did not post 34 wins last year. Two seperate rosters combined to post 34 wins.
    One of those Rosters performed much better than the other.

    Extrapolating the record that the 2nd roster put up, which is what we are moving forward with, I think its unfair, and doesn't make much sense, to say this is a 34 win team.
    It's dishonest to just pick one part of the season and saying we played .500 so there. Since you can pick and chose so can I. After the adrenaline died off from the Rudy Gay trade we went 5-15, before pulling off our 5 game win streak against teams that played their bench major minutes. We were tied with Washington for 29 wins before that. Right now we can't say that this will be a .500 team next year. The only thing roster has proven is that they can win 34 games, that's it.
    Last edited by DG88; Thu Sep 12th, 2013 at 09:53 PM.

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    Quote DG88 wrote: View Post
    It's dishonest to just pick one part of the season and saying we played .500 so there. Since you can pick and chose so can I. After the adrenaline died off from the Rudy Gay trade we went 5-15, before pulling off our 5 game win streak against teams that played their bench major minutes. We were tied with Washington for 29 wins before that. Right now we can't say that this will be a .500 team next year. The only thing roster has proven is that they can win 34 games, that's it.
    Except I'm not picking and choosing... I'm splitting the season into two very distinct portions. I thought that was clear.

    And I'm not saying to call us a .500 team.
    I'm just saying its misleading, slightly inaccurate and poor journalism to judge our "talent-to-cost ratio" as 34-wins, based off so many varying, and no longer existing, factors from last year.
    Last edited by Joey; Thu Sep 12th, 2013 at 10:00 PM.
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