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    Default Raptors Invite Julyan Stone & Chris Wright To Camp

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    I would have thought after MU's africa trip he'd invite someone from his Africa campaign

    Edit... I nvm. I was right. FIBA Africa lol
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    Quote drunkmunky wrote: View Post
    I would have thought after MU's africa trip he'd invite someone from his Africa campaign
    Massai always has to give an African a shot. He'll find another next for training camp as well.

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    There's a solid amount of video on him if you go through the Afrobasket highlights on YouTube.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6oYpcbNqVw

    0:16 - nice drive for the lay-in
    0:59 - outlet pass, which seems to impress the commentators
    1:08 - pull-up 3

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    I would say it's between him and JuJu for the last spot.

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    Deal with it.
    Keep Calm & Chive On

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    2013 Afrobasket MVP Carlos Morais To Raptors
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    The 2013 Afrobasket MVP Carlos Morais has received a non-guaranteed deal to try out for the Toronto Raptors at training camp in about two weeks from now according to Angolan sources.

    Mariana Rodrigues of Desporto reported on an instagram photo posted by Morais that shows his name and picture on a MLSE identity card as a Raptors player.

    Joe DíAlmeida of Platina line confirmed the instagram picture and provided this quote from the player (translated from Portuguese).

    ďIt depends only on me achieving this great goal. If all goes as hoped, the contract can be a reality, but it all depends on a few factors.Ē

    Basically, if everything goes well, Morais believes he can get a contract with the Raptors.

    Morais is a 6í4Ē 27-year-old shooting guard who plays professionally in Angola and has been the star of the Angolan National team for several years. He is primarily a three-point shooter and in his 7 games at the 2013 Afrobasket, he averaged 7.3 three-point attempts per game. At the tournament, he averaged 15.9 points and collected 4.6 rebounds per game. In the championship game versus Egypt he had 21 points and 8 rebounds while hitting 4 three-pointers as Angola won 57-40.

    Raptors President and General Manager, Basketball Operations Masai Ujiri told Pawel Weszka of NBA.com about his trip to Africa this summer and how important developing the game in Africa is to him personally.

    ďIt just continues to pile on, the unbelievable experiences that I have had on the continent while trying to help grow the game and give back,Ē Ujiri said. ďI think we all continue to do everything we can to help grow the game in Africa.

    ďItís going to be a phenomenal tournament. I think Iíve gone to every single Afrobasket since I played in 1997. Itís such a competitive tournament, itís almost raw. It has bettered skill wise and itís bettered technically. Overall I go watch every country and give every player an opportunity to see him live.Ē

    Apparently Ujiri saw what he likes in Morais. Ujiri has been adding long range shooting to the Raptors this summer and Morais is another three-point specialist that continues that theme, plus he provides Ujiri a legitimate means to help grow the game in Africa. It will be interesting to see what this guard can do when he shows up at training camp.

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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    I would say it's between him and JuJu for the last spot.
    I actually don't think the signing has much to do with expecting the guy to make the team. This is a guy who's never played Euro ball even. I highly doubt he's up to par for NBA. I think that's exactly part of the reason for the signing. Show him what it takes to make it in the NBA, and he can take that knowledge back to Africa. If African programs are going to improve, they'll need guys who know what direction the program needs to go in. Since this guy has been such a big player there for a while, I think he's likely to also focus his post-playing career on helping the development of the game there.

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    Knowing how horrendous Novak's D is and that there isn't any reliable volume 3 point shooter on the bench, it's conceivable that he takes AA's spot and pushes Novak, Fields and Ross for minutes. Our 3 and D spot for the wing position still isn't settled.

    Novak, Ross and Fields are on the hotseat this year, even with their guaranteed contracts.
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    Quote Raptorsss wrote: View Post
    Knowing how horrendous Novak's D is and that there isn't any reliable volume 3 point shooter on the bench, it's conceivable that he takes AA's spot and pushes Novak, Fields and Ross for minutes. Our 3 and D spot for the wing position still isn't settled.

    Novak, Ross and Fields are on the hotseat this year, even with their guaranteed contracts.
    Whoa. Whoa. The gap between NBA rotation players (even scrubs) and a 27 year-old Angolan who hasn't even sniffed Eurobasket, let alone the NBA, is HUGE. This guy got an invite because of the Ujiri connection (I like white men can't jump's take on it, above), not because he's about to push an 8-year NBA vet for minutes. Everybody just calm down. We're talking training camp. Training Camp.

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    Quote S.R. wrote: View Post
    Whoa. Whoa. The gap between NBA rotation players (even scrubs) and a 27 year-old Angolan who hasn't even sniffed Eurobasket, let alone the NBA, is HUGE. This guy got an invite because of the Ujiri connection (I like white men can't jump's take on it, above), not because he's about to push an 8-year NBA vet for minutes. Everybody just calm down. We're talking training camp. Training Camp.
    You do realize that Novak's defense is atrocious right? If Marais is half the defender Alan Anderson was and can hit wide open 3's consistently he's already our best bench player. Ujiri invited arguably the best basketball player playing professionally in Africa and maybe that player isn't even a 16th player on a scrub NBA team, but his skill set puts real pressure on Novak, Ross and Fields to outplay him for minutes.
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    You do realize that Novak's defense is atrocious right? If Marais is half the defender Alan Anderson was and can hit wide open 3's consistently he's already our best bench player. Ujiri invited arguably the best basketball player playing professionally in Africa and maybe that player isn't even a 16th player on a scrub NBA team, but his skill set puts real pressure on Novak, Ross and Fields to outplay him for minutes.
    Novak is an atrocious defender, but it's not like Novak should ever be part of your top 8. He's a situational player and if he's in your top 8-9, the other guys in the rotation better all be great defenders. But he's also proven as a shooter, as one of the best in the league in that role, and is a pretty smart player, which means he at least often knows what he's supposed to be doing on D (that doesn't sound like a lot, but it is).

    However, Morais has never played against elite competition except for little chunks in international play. He's a 6'3'' guard. Will he be able to defend either guard position in the NBA? Or will he be too slow for PGs and too small for SGs? And throw in his lack of high-level experience, and he could get schooled regularly by even bench players with some savvy.

    It's fine to root for him, but there's no way to suggest he's capable of stepping into the NBA immediately. He's 27 years old and never even got a Euro contract, or even a D-League contract, and he's got the classic tweener body. Don't get too excited.

    AA is a bad comparison, as AA was NCAA schooled, and Euro experienced, and had prototypical size for a wing. None of these elements apply to Morais. He may not have the physical or mental tools for the NBA game, and his one obvious skill, which is shooting, is even based on a different distance of 3 pt line.

    I still think this is mostly just to get the guy exposed to NBA coaching and competition, so if he doesn't make it (the likeliest scenario) he can at least take that knowledge back to his country and continent to possibly help develop the game.

    *Not to mention it's good exposure for him in general. Maybe it will help land him a Euro deal as well if he gets cut.
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    2013 Afrobasket MVP Carlos Morais To Raptors
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    The 2013 Afrobasket MVP Carlos Morais has received a non-guaranteed deal to try out for the Toronto Raptors at training camp in about two weeks from now according to Angolan sources.

    Mariana Rodrigues of Desporto reported on an instagram photo posted by Morais that shows his name and picture on a MLSE identity card as a Raptors player.

    Joe DíAlmeida of Platina line confirmed the instagram picture and provided this quote from the player (translated from Portuguese).

    ďIt depends only on me achieving this great goal. If all goes as hoped, the contract can be a reality, but it all depends on a few factors.Ē

    Basically, if everything goes well, Morais believes he can get a contract with the Raptors.

    Morais is a 6í4Ē 27-year-old shooting guard who plays professionally in Angola and has been the star of the Angolan National team for several years. He is primarily a three-point shooter and in his 7 games at the 2013 Afrobasket, he averaged 7.3 three-point attempts per game. At the tournament, he averaged 15.9 points and collected 4.6 rebounds per game. In the championship game versus Egypt he had 21 points and 8 rebounds while hitting 4 three-pointers as Angola won 57-40.

    Raptors President and General Manager, Basketball Operations Masai Ujiri told Pawel Weszka of NBA.com about his trip to Africa this summer and how important developing the game in Africa is to him personally.

    ďIt just continues to pile on, the unbelievable experiences that I have had on the continent while trying to help grow the game and give back,Ē Ujiri said. ďI think we all continue to do everything we can to help grow the game in Africa.

    ďItís going to be a phenomenal tournament. I think Iíve gone to every single Afrobasket since I played in 1997. Itís such a competitive tournament, itís almost raw. It has bettered skill wise and itís bettered technically. Overall I go watch every country and give every player an opportunity to see him live.Ē

    Apparently Ujiri saw what he likes in Morais. Ujiri has been adding long range shooting to the Raptors this summer and Morais is another three-point specialist that continues that theme, plus he provides Ujiri a legitimate means to help grow the game in Africa. It will be interesting to see what this guard can do when he shows up at training camp.
    The man has a bright future as a politician in his home one day should he chose to go that route. He's certainly paving the way for it.

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    Novak is an atrocious defender, but it's not like Novak should ever be part of your top 8. He's a situational player and if he's in your top 8-9, the other guys in the rotation better all be great defenders. But he's also proven as a shooter, as one of the best in the league in that role, and is a pretty smart player, which means he at least often knows what he's supposed to be doing on D (that doesn't sound like a lot, but it is).

    However, Morais has never played against elite competition except for little chunks in international play. He's a 6'3'' guard. Will he be able to defend either guard position in the NBA? Or will he be too slow for PGs and too small for SGs? And throw in his lack of high-level experience, and he could get schooled regularly by even bench players with some savvy.

    It's fine to root for him, but there's no way to suggest he's capable of stepping into the NBA immediately. He's 27 years old and never even got a Euro contract, or even a D-League contract, and he's got the classic tweener body. Don't get too excited.

    AA is a bad comparison, as AA was NCAA schooled, and Euro experienced, and had prototypical size for a wing. None of these elements apply to Morais. He may not have the physical or mental tools for the NBA game, and his one obvious skill, which is shooting, is even based on a different distance of 3 pt line.

    I still think this is mostly just to get the guy exposed to NBA coaching and competition, so if he doesn't make it (the likeliest scenario) he can at least take that knowledge back to his country and continent to possibly help develop the game.

    *Not to mention it's good exposure for him in general. Maybe it will help land him a Euro deal as well if he gets cut.
    I'd just like to mention that his been to like two Olympics and in Beijing he scored 26 points on team USA. I agree with you that he won't make the team because I be live it's Stone's spot to lose. I honestly feel like the other 2(Wright and Morais) are just there to push. So Ujiri can see his really healthy. Than you never know stranger things have happened. Jamario Moon comes to mind.

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    Oh man.

    I'm rooting for these guys but Morais scares the hell out of me with Casey coaching.

    Absolutely unfair on my part and definitely jumping to conclusions and certainly not rationale but I think if he is on the roster come opening day we have our new AA.
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Oh man.

    I'm rooting for these guys but Morais scares the hell out of me with Casey coaching.

    Absolutely unfair on my part and definitely jumping to conclusions and certainly not rationale but I think if he is on the roster come opening day we have our new AA.
    I hear where your coming from but, if Ross lose minutes to any of these 3. I think we need to stop pointing the finger at Casey. I'm starting to get the impression that Ross just doesn't have it in him to be successful. He has all the skills and atheltecism. That it though. Doesn't seem like he has any dawg in him.

    I don't if anyone realized he was in Toronto workout with all the young guys but, than flew to Vegas to watch the Mayweather fight. When the rest of the young guys went to watch it together at real sports.

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    I hear where your coming from but, if Ross lose minutes to any of these 3. I think we need to stop pointing the finger at Casey. I'm starting to get the impression that Ross just doesn't have it in him to be successful. He has all the skills and atheltecism. That it though. Doesn't seem like he has any dawg in him.

    I don't if anyone realized he was in Toronto workout with all the young guys but, than flew to Vegas to watch the Mayweather fight. When the rest of the young guys went to watch it together at real sports.
    I felt last year that when given consistent minutes and a role Ross was doing alright for a rookie. I'm still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt based on this despite all the other possibilities of what could have been happening behind the scenes.
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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    I hear where your coming from but, if Ross lose minutes to any of these 3. I think we need to stop pointing the finger at Casey. I'm starting to get the impression that Ross just doesn't have it in him to be successful. He has all the skills and atheltecism. That it though. Doesn't seem like he has any dawg in him.

    I don't if anyone realized he was in Toronto workout with all the young guys but, than flew to Vegas to watch the Mayweather fight. When the rest of the young guys went to watch it together at real sports.
    I hear what you're saying, but at the same time it's only been a year - give him some more time.

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