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    Kentucky-Vandy right now. Andrew Harrison is another possible mid-first rounder.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    There's talk of Embiid going #1 now? WTF
    It raises a couple of questions for me:

    1. Where was Emiid ranked prior to the season? Was he even ranked in the lottery?

    2. What does it say about the hype of "5-6 franchise players", based on high school performances, when a guy with 3 years of basketball experience, goes from way down on the ranking, to leap frog over all of them after 15 games of college ball? Maybe the class isn't quite as strong as all the early hype? Just wondering.

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    Embiid has been ranked very highly since before the season. He isn't some random kid outplaying overhyped prospects. He has been the best C prospect in the draft since the summer, and has been considered one of those "franchise players" for quite a while now.

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    Ennis didn't shoot terribly well today -- Grant and CJ Fair were solid. But wow, I've never seen a point guard that young, have so much control of a game. The way he split a screen on the left side of the perimeter so effortlessly...There's a lot there.

    Really liked Wiggins game today, particularly that run in the second half with multiple 3 pointers, a couple rebounds and that dunk. Sort of wish he was a bit more comfortable with contact going up. He seems fine banging down low for rebounds... Good to see him start to turn things up. This is the first Kansas game that I've seen that he completely outclassed Embiid. Their 3rd freshman looked good too.

    That Iowa State point guard, I hope he's alright. He's definitely a prospect worth following. and that power forward Shaq (from Memphis) had an eye opening day. Good day of basketball for sure.

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    Quote blackjitsu wrote: View Post
    Ennis didn't shoot terribly well today -- Grant and CJ Fair were solid. But wow, I've never seen a point guard that young, have so much control of a game. The way he split a screen on the left side of the perimeter so effortlessly...There's a lot there.

    Really liked Wiggins game today, particularly that run in the second half with multiple 3 pointers, a couple rebounds and that dunk. Sort of wish he was a bit more comfortable with contact going up. He seems fine banging down low for rebounds... Good to see him start to turn things up. This is the first Kansas game that I've seen that he completely outclassed Embiid. Their 3rd freshman looked good too.

    That Iowa State point guard, I hope he's alright. He's definitely a prospect worth following. and that power forward Shaq (from Memphis) had an eye opening day. Good day of basketball for sure.
    Ennis needs to work on his scoring a bit, but his shooting (in terms of outside shot/jumper) is quite solid. Not always dropping, but it also doesn't limit his effectiveness as a PG. He really makes that team go. He is that ideal PG in the sense of being able to control the flow of the game, make mostly good decisions, and be that sort of PG who's like a coach on the floor. I'm really high on him.

    I doubt Grant's ability to transition to the NBA. Seems like a hustle player to me and doesn't have much else to offer in terms of skills. Might be a D/rebounding specialist though. And for Fair I'm not sure he's anything special in terms of a prospect.

    Wiggins played a good game today. He needs some counters. He has a smooth shot, a great first step and can explode...but if he's cut off he still needs some other ways to finish, or to create better for others. I like that he does seem to try and play within the team...Also it's definitely not the first time I've seen him outclass Embiid, but the first time since some of their earlier games. The last little while Embiid had some good games.

    I haven't seen the kids from Iowa state or Memphis.

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    Iowa State plays Kansas on Monday (I think). If their PG is healthy, that will be a really good one to watch.

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    hasn't really been mentioned here, but what about Po 2.0?
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    Joel Embiid is a bad, bad man.

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    Is it me or does the draft look more and more overrated by the week.


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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    Is it me or does the draft look more and more overrated by the week.


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    Because the Raps are winning. If they were ****ing i bet you'd say this is the greatest draft class ever lol.

    Anyway, nothing really much has changed. The top prospects in this draft(Wiggins, Embiid, Parker, Exum, Randle, Smart) are all going to be studs IMO.
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    I wouldn't say overrated. Not as good as once advertised, but still, I think this will be the best draft since the 08 one - there will still be a lot of star power.

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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post
    Because the Raps are winning. If they were ****ing i bet you'd say this is the greatest draft class ever lol.

    Anyway, nothing really much has changed. The top prospects in this draft(Wiggins, Embiid, Parker, Exum, Randle, Smart) are all going to be studs IMO.
    Andrew Wiggins doesn't not seem like franchise altering talent he was hyped to be.

    Since conference play started Parker and Randle have struggled. I think Parker 3-11 tonight. His been
    Scouted and can't adapt


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    Wiggins with a monster game. 17pts 19rbs; Embiid with a pretty good game himself 16pts 9rbs 5blk.
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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    Andrew Wiggins doesn't not seem like franchise altering talent he was hyped to be.

    Since conference play started Parker and Randle have struggled. I think Parker 3-11 tonight. His been
    Scouted and can't adapt


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    many 'experts' expected that Jabari will struggle in Duke. I'm pretty sure he'll be just fine tho. He's a great kid, but what will happen if he decides to go on a mission? :s
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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post
    Wiggins with a monster game. 17pts 19rbs; Embiid with a pretty good game himself 16pts 9rbs 5blk.
    Yeah, and Kansas got a brutal whistle on Iowa St.'s court. Both could've had better games if the whistle were even a bit more fair.

    Also, I still want to see a game where Embiid plays well and he doesn't vastly outmatch his matchup in talent. All the good games I've seen from him have been against guys who are embarrassingly bad basketball talents for the C position. Smaller, slower, sometimes fat, low-skill, no athleticism....I want to at least see him play some close to decent competition before I'll get too excited about him.

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    Really good game from Wiggins though -- he nearly had that double double at halftime. A bit of a shame that Kane was playing the 2 for ISU instead of at point, but he was decent. That's two games in a row where Embiid let the opposition's big get under his skin. 2 solid games in a row for Wiggins, and finally driving for contact. It's crazy that he's trying to do so much development in a year.

    Looks like Ennis had a rough game today, anyone watch it? Also, Parker struggled anyone watch that one?

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    Quote blackjitsu wrote: View Post
    Really good game from Wiggins though -- he nearly had that double double at halftime. A bit of a shame that Kane was playing the 2 for ISU instead of at point, but he was decent. That's two games in a row where Embiid let the opposition's big get under his skin. 2 solid games in a row for Wiggins, and finally driving for contact. It's crazy that he's trying to do so much development in a year.

    Looks like Ennis had a rough game today, anyone watch it?
    Also, Parker struggled anyone watch that one?
    Didn't watch it but it doesn't seem like it was that rough....12 pts (4-11 FG, incl. 2-4 3pt, 2-3 FT), 5 ast, 3 reb, 6 (!!) stl, 1 to

    Seems pretty solid. Right around his averages. He needs to keep working on his scoring, especially his finishing ability when he's penetrating. Jumper is solid and decision-making is great. D is underrated too.

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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post
    “Embiid is the best player in the country.” - ISU Coach Fred Hoiberg
    Woah!
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    Didn't watch it but it doesn't seem like it was that rough....12 pts (4-11 FG, incl. 2-4 3pt, 2-3 FT), 5 ast, 3 reb, 6 (!!) stl, 1 to

    Seems pretty solid. Right around his averages. He needs to keep working on his scoring, especially his finishing ability when he's penetrating. Jumper is solid and decision-making is great. D is underrated too.
    When I last checked he had 4pts and they were losing. Now I REALLY want know how he played.

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    Quote blackjitsu wrote: View Post
    Woah!


    When I last checked he had 4pts and they were losing. Now I REALLY want know how he played.
    Yeah, I saw the same thing. They were down in the 2nd and he looked to be struggling (not even sure he had an assist), and finished with 12 and 5....and of course, the win.
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