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    Quote grindhouse wrote: View Post
    Took a closer look at Noah vonlah and in order for him to be good he needs a lot more strength he has the body to put it on but he is a project IMO not worth the 20th pick or a upgrade from pat or Amir.


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    You are out to lunch, there is no way this guy goes outside the lottery, period. IF he is there at 20 you take him with no question.

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    See, i'd rather draft Kyle Anderson (in the mock drafts he's somewhere between 18-23 and have him be a DD-Ross backup. A bench unit with Vasquez and Anderson is going to cut apart other 2nd units with passing and three-point shooting. You would be able to throw a completely different look at teams if you had GV-Anderson-NewBackupSF-Patterson-NewBackupC off the bench. Reminds me a bit of the Nets starting lineup actually. And those bench units that play for 5-15 minutes with Lowry off-ball with GV? KL-GV-Anderson-Patterson-NewBackupC is a defense's nightmare.
    And n offensive dream. Anderson and big balls can't guard anyone. Lowry is 6'0 tall and that centre will probably be old and scrappy
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    Quote Yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
    And n offensive dream. Anderson and big balls can't guard anyone. Lowry is 6'0 tall and that centre will probably be old and scrappy
    Length helps crowd the passing lanes. Besides, defensive talent is less important on the second unit. That unit would probably out-offense every other bench unit
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    Quote TSF wrote: View Post
    Length helps crowd the passing lanes. Besides, defensive talent is less important on the second unit. That unit would probably out-offense every other bench unit
    What if Mike D'Antoni coached that unit?
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    Adrien Payne lookin like a young David West

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    I really like Kyle Anderson and Adreian Payne but both of them look to be such bad defenders. Especially Kyle. He is extremely slow and unathletic. I don't see him being able to keep anyone in front of him at all. Adreian looks like he has the potential to become a good defender. His issue is more focus on that end than anything else.

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    Jarnell Stokes. Masai, make it happen.

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    I really like Kyle Anderson and Adreian Payne but both of them look to be such bad defenders. Especially Kyle. He is extremely slow and unathletic. I don't see him being able to keep anyone in front of him at all. Adreian looks like he has the potential to become a good defender. His issue is more focus on that end than anything else.
    Payne = Patrick Patterson
    Anderson = 6'9 Greivis Vasquez minus the cajones

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    The players that I really like:
    Damien Inglis
    Zach LaVine
    Jarnell Stokes
    Glenn Robinson III
    Patric Young
    Elfrid Payton
    Clint Capela

    Players I don't prefer:
    K.J Mcdaniels
    Kyle Anderson
    Jerami Grant
    Adrein Payne

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    Quote MACK11 wrote: View Post
    The players that I really like:
    Damien Inglis
    Zach LaVine
    Jarnell Stokes
    Glenn Robinson III
    Patric Young
    Elfrid Payton
    Clint Capela

    Players I don't prefer:
    K.J Mcdaniels
    Kyle Anderson
    Jerami Grant
    Adrein Payne
    Agreed! I really like Damien and Jarnell

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    Alright so I'm bored today so I thought I would throw down my draft picks in tiers for the top 30 guys (draftexpress)

    Tier 1: Superstar potential. Complete skill sets. Elite impact players
    Tier 2: Potential all-star. High impact players.
    Tier 3: Borderline all-stars. These guys are the league sleepers who should have solid, long careers. Moderate impact players.
    Tier 4: Solid 2 way players that are inefficient in high-usage roles, but are a big plus as a defender. Bust potential low. Moderate impact players
    Tier 5: Physical specimen with tons of potential or has extremely intriguing skill set. Could potentially be complete players but may also be complete busts. Major projects. "Unknowns" tier. (basically here is where I place guys I have no idea about, even though some I am very high on)
    Tier 6: Specialists. One-sided players, may stick around the league for offense or defense. Impact is low. Bust potential moderate.
    Tier 7: Struggles to find a spot in the league. Tweeners or majorly flawed. Bust potential high


    Tier 1:
    Wiggins, Embiid

    Tier 2:
    Parker, Exum, Vonleh,

    Tier 3:
    Hood, Napier, Stauskas, Ennis, Harris,

    Tier 4:
    Smart, Payton, Robinson III, McDaniels

    Tier 5: "Unknowns"
    LaVine, Gordon, Saric, Capela, Grant

    Tier 6:
    McDermott, Young, McGary, Adams

    Tier 7:
    Nurkic, Warren, Porzingis, Payne


    Hard to place:
    Hairston - Somewhere between tier 3 and 4.

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    Quote OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post
    Alright so I'm bored today so I thought I would throw down my draft picks in tiers for the top 30 guys (draftexpress)

    Tier 1: Superstar potential. Complete skill sets. Elite impact players
    Tier 2: Potential all-star. High impact players.
    Tier 3: Borderline all-stars. These guys are the league sleepers who should have solid, long careers. Moderate impact players.
    Tier 4: Solid 2 way players that are inefficient in high-usage roles, but are a big plus as a defender. Bust potential low. Moderate impact players
    Tier 5: Physical specimen with tons of potential or has extremely intriguing skill set. Could potentially be complete players but may also be complete busts. Major projects. "Unknowns" tier. (basically here is where I place guys I have no idea about, even though some I am very high on)
    Tier 6: Specialists. One-sided players, may stick around the league for offense or defense. Impact is low. Bust potential moderate.
    Tier 7: Struggles to find a spot in the league. Tweeners or majorly flawed. Bust potential high


    Tier 1:
    Wiggins, Embiid

    Tier 2:
    Parker, Exum, Vonleh,

    Tier 3:
    Hood, Napier, Stauskas, Ennis, Harris,

    Tier 4:
    Smart, Payton, Robinson III, McDaniels

    Tier 5: "Unknowns"
    LaVine, Gordon, Saric, Capela, Grant

    Tier 6:
    McDermott, Young, McGary, Adams

    Tier 7:
    Nurkic, Warren, Porzingis, Payne


    Hard to place:
    Hairston - Somewhere between tier 3 and 4.
    seems like you have alot of time on your hands buddy! first the demar to chi town now this

    I totally agree with you here though. But I would put parker into the 1st tier. That dude is carmelo anthony 2.0. Not good enough to carry a team to the promised land while being to selfish and ball dominate to play with other stars to enter the promised land.
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    I think Inglis could slide into tier 4.
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    Quote Jordan Evans wrote: View Post
    Jarnell Stokes. Masai, make it happen.
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    So i guess Jarnell Stokes is the flavor of the week here, whatever. I don't mind him....... IN THE 2ND ROUND. First round? no way!! There will be better players out there available at 20.
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    Quote Yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
    seems like you have alot of time on your hands buddy! first the demar to chi town now this

    I totally agree with you here though. But I would put parker into the 1st tier. That dude is carmelo anthony 2.0. Not good enough to carry a team to the promised land while being to selfish and ball dominate to play with other stars to enter the promised land.
    Lol it has been an extremely slow day

    Parker does have Anthony 2.0 written all over him, which is exactly why I have him in Tier 2. Melo is very good, but he isn't a superstar, he lacks the defensive ability and the unselfishness that is required for him to be a superstar. Now, Parker may become that superstar eventually, but from what we saw from him in college it isn't looking like he will be anything more than a Melo, who is not a superstar.

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    I think Inglis could slide into tier 4.
    I agree. I didn't put him in because he wasn't in the DX top 30

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    Quote OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post
    Alright so I'm bored today so I thought I would throw down my draft picks in tiers for the top 30 guys (draftexpress)

    Tier 1: Superstar potential. Complete skill sets. Elite impact players
    Tier 2: Potential all-star. High impact players.
    Tier 3: Borderline all-stars. These guys are the league sleepers who should have solid, long careers. Moderate impact players.
    Tier 4: Solid 2 way players that are inefficient in high-usage roles, but are a big plus as a defender. Bust potential low. Moderate impact players
    Tier 5: Physical specimen with tons of potential or has extremely intriguing skill set. Could potentially be complete players but may also be complete busts. Major projects. "Unknowns" tier. (basically here is where I place guys I have no idea about, even though some I am very high on)
    Tier 6: Specialists. One-sided players, may stick around the league for offense or defense. Impact is low. Bust potential moderate.
    Tier 7: Struggles to find a spot in the league. Tweeners or majorly flawed. Bust potential high


    Tier 1:
    Wiggins, Embiid

    Tier 2:
    Parker, Exum, Vonleh,

    Tier 3:
    Hood, Napier, Stauskas, Ennis, Harris,

    Tier 4:
    Smart, Payton, Robinson III, McDaniels

    Tier 5: "Unknowns"
    LaVine, Gordon, Saric, Capela, Grant

    Tier 6:
    McDermott, Young, McGary, Adams

    Tier 7:
    Nurkic, Warren, Porzingis, Payne


    Hard to place:
    Hairston - Somewhere between tier 3 and 4.
    Could Tier 7 be high risk, high reward?

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    Quote blackjitsu wrote: View Post
    Could Tier 7 be high risk, high reward?
    Potentially yes. I feel like it would take quite a bit for Nurkic to turn into Gasol, or Payne into Milsap...they probably end up the Lite version

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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post
    So i guess Jarnell Stokes is the flavor of the week here, whatever. I don't mind him....... IN THE 2ND ROUND. First round? no way!! There will be better players out there available at 20.
    Yeah I wouldn't want to draft him at 20, there are much better prospects

    I would love to get him at 37

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    Quote OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post
    Potentially yes. I feel like it would take quite a bit for Nurkic to turn into Gasol, or Payne into Milsap...they probably end up the Lite version
    Payne is way better than you give him credit for. He's not a tweener at all, dude is a legit 6'10" with range and a developing post game.

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