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    Quote iblastoff wrote: View Post
    Too much homerism here. Spurs fans thought the same thing when they got Austin daye.


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    Quote raptors999 wrote: View Post
    And they won the Championship. Plan worked. What's your Point?
    They didn't win it because of Austin Daye that's for sure lol

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    Quote Jamshid wrote: View Post
    That is a very flawed logic. Make a list of good players who were drafted below 20 in past 20 years and have contributed so much to their team ... I bet you that the list would be huge ... With the way our team is constructed, we will be drafting late in the draft for next few years. This is the tool that has to help us get better.

    One of the things that Spurs are praised for is how they can get talent late in the draft and use them to keep themselves competitive.

    If you have the logic that well, 20 pick are not usually good and if we miss, so what, we miss !!! Then might as well, trade that pick for teams who value draft and get some player. Guess who used to do that Our very OWN RR favourite for 7 years, Mr.BC.
    IMO Bruno C is exactly how Spurs do it. They swing for the fences knowing if they take BPA available after lottery, you are likely looking for avg of 10-12 mins, 5.2 pts...
    Lets look at some of their picks past No 15:
    2011 -Cory Joseph No 29 -Jurry still out
    2010 -James Anderson No 20 (Is he in NBA?)
    2009 -D Blair No 37 -Great choice, passed by many bec of bad knees.
    2005 -I Mahimi No 28 -decent back up & typical production for that spot;
    1998 -Felipe Lopez No 24
    1995 -C Alexader No 29
    1994 -Bill Curley No 22;
    As you can see -sometimes they find T Parker or Manu late, but there are a lot of duds as well.
    My point was that if you go safe with BPA, you are likely to get average production for that spot (which is not much). Or you can take a gamble, knowing if it works, you are a genius, if not, you already have a Steve Novak or Tyler or... that can give you that 5.2 pts, 2.8 RB or whatever you get out of 9,10 man on your roster.
    The only guy, I can think of that we drafted after lottery with decent value & production was Mo Pete. Beyond him, nothing doing. Lets wait & see.
    He can hardly turn out much worse than J Graham (No 16 in 2005), K Rush (No 20 in 2002), M Bradley (No 17 in 2001), C Jefferies (No 27 in 2002)...

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    Quote Mapko wrote: View Post
    IMO Bruno C is exactly how Spurs do it. They swing for the fences knowing if they take BPA available after lottery, you are likely looking for avg of 10-12 mins, 5.2 pts...
    Lets look at some of their picks past No 15:
    2011 -Cory Joseph No 29 -Jurry still out
    2010 -James Anderson No 20 (Is he in NBA?)
    2009 -D Blair No 37 -Great choice, passed by many bec of bad knees.
    2005 -I Mahimi No 28 -decent back up & typical production for that spot;
    1998 -Felipe Lopez No 24
    1995 -C Alexader No 29
    1994 -Bill Curley No 22;
    As you can see -sometimes they find T Parker or Manu late, but there are a lot of duds as well.
    My point was that if you go safe with BPA, you are likely to get average production for that spot (which is not much). Or you can take a gamble, knowing if it works, you are a genius, if not, you already have a Steve Novak or Tyler or... that can give you that 5.2 pts, 2.8 RB or whatever you get out of 9,10 man on your roster.
    The only guy, I can think of that we drafted after lottery with decent value & production was Mo Pete. Beyond him, nothing doing. Lets wait & see.
    He can hardly turn out much worse than J Graham (No 16 in 2005), K Rush (No 20 in 2002), M Bradley (No 17 in 2001), C Jefferies (No 27 in 2002)...
    We drafted PJ Tucker 35th overall. Haven't been following this argument but the raps have gotten some late picks right.

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    Quote Bonus Jonas wrote: View Post
    We drafted PJ Tucker 35th overall. Haven't been following this argument but the raps have gotten some late picks right.
    It doesn't count if a play develops for another team.

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    Quote raptors999 wrote: View Post
    It doesn't count if a play develops for another team.
    Again don't know what the argument was, just wanted to point out we've drafted guys in the second round that ended up being solid.

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    Quote Bonus Jonas wrote: View Post
    Again don't know what the argument was, just wanted to point out we've drafted guys in the second round that ended up being solid.
    P.J. gave the Raps zero value and had to spend 5 years overseas before he was able to contribute in the NBA. No team would consider a player like that a successful draft pick..

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    At the 3 minute mark Ennis talks about his interview with PHX

    "PHX was so serious, like no joke...and I'm like oh god"

    interesting...

    The hole interview with Cabbie is really good, still kinda choked we didn't get him

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    Quote OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post


    At the 3 minute mark Ennis talks about his interview with PHX

    "PHX was so serious, like no joke...and I'm like oh god"

    interesting...

    The hole interview with Cabbie is really good, still kinda choked we didn't get him
    It's unfortunate we didn't get Stauskas either eh, he's gonna be the best SG in the league in a few years right?

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    Quote imanshumpert wrote: View Post
    It's unfortunate we didn't get Stauskas either eh, he's gonna be the best SG in the league in a few years right?
    Well he was one of the only people out of this draft class that actually plays efficient basketball, has elite range and has the skills to be a primary ball handler...if those skills translate to the NBA, there are no current SG's who have all those skills outside of Lance (and he isn't an elite shooter), and maybe Beal.

    Oh, and nice sarcastic statement that is meant to show how stupid I am.

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    Quote mcHAPPY wrote: View Post
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    Presented with no comment except to say: watch it all.
    Goodness gracious ... that's sick, wicked and nasty!

    That last one he actually catches the ball backwards, completely blind. Super impressive.
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    Damn.

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    Quote mcHAPPY wrote: View Post
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    Unfortunate that they didn't have more angles for the free throw windmill. That looked unbelievable.
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