The Raptors and the 2014 Draft

[stooley]

Averaging 2.0 Blocks and 5.7 rebounds in 18.9 mins against grown men * who play in the french league.


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there

[Chr1s1anL]

there

Good league. Dwight Buycks played there last year.

10 games in eurocup 19.8 mins 11.2 points 6.5 rebounds 1.1 Blks


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[Letter N]

Good league. Dwight Buycks played there last year.

10 games in eurocup 19.8 mins 11.2 points 6.5 rebounds 1.1 Blks


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I don't think that helped your argument.

[Axel]

Good league. Dwight Buycks played there last year.

10 games in eurocup 19.8 mins 11.2 points 6.5 rebounds 1.1 Blks


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Wasn't Buycks like the MVP of that league? Now he's a DNP-CD if he's lucky.

[KHD]

Well, the competitiveness of the league isn't everything. Antetokounmpo was playing in the Greek 2nd league.

If you can pick up a guy like this Capela in the second round, I don't see much problem with it.

[mcHAPPY]

Well, the competitiveness of the league isn't everything. Antetokounmpo was playing in the Greek 2nd league.

If you can pick up a guy like this Capela in the second round, I don't see much problem with it.

That is a great point.

This is where the eye for talent is crucial.

[Axel]

Well, the competitiveness of the league isn't everything. Antetokounmpo was playing in the Greek 2nd league.

If you can pick up a guy like this Capela in the second round, I don't see much problem with it.

2nd round sure, but I wouldn't stretch that far for a 1st rounder, which is what I read into the comment above by Octothorp.

[magoon]

I want Clint Capela. Only if Casey is still coaching. Casey will transform this kid into a defensive juggernaut. After watching JV I've realized that he will never be that defensive anchor that we all hope he was.

I like Capela as well, but let's be realistic about JV. It's his second year in the NBA, he never played college ball, and you're criticizing him for his issues on defense, which is far and away the most difficult skill in the NBA to learn and JV isn't bad at it per se, he's just inconsistent.

Big men are projects. Give him time.

[Chr1s1anL]

I like Capela as well, but let's be realistic about JV. It's his second year in the NBA, he never played college ball, and you're criticizing him for his issues on defense, which is far and away the most difficult skill in the NBA to learn and JV isn't bad at it per se, he's just inconsistent.

Big men are projects. Give him time.

Defensive big man are usually good from the start. I'm not saying he'll never be a decent defender. I feel the ship has sailed for defensive anchor.


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[WJF]

Defensive big man are usually good from the start. I'm not saying he'll never be a decent defender. I feel the ship has sailed for defensive anchor.


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I am not so sure about this, I think good shot bloclers show what they have early, but it takes time for all players to learn team defense. There is a huge difference between individual and team D

[Joey]

Defensive big man are usually good from the start. I'm not saying he'll never be a decent defender. I feel the ship has sailed for defensive anchor.


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I think this is a load of BS .. so many of the great "Defensive Anchors" in the NBA today did NOT start their career as even being respected defensive players.

Tyson Chandler, Marc Gasol, (even Al Jefferson), have proven to be VERY effective defensively when put into the right system, and none were considered "elite defensively" until they suddenly were.

[Chr1s1anL]

Tyson Chandler and Marc has always been a good defender. Al Jefferson isn't even that good of defender. Those aren't good examples.


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[Joey]

Tyson Chandler and Marc has always been a good defender. Al Jefferson isn't even that good of defender. Those aren't good examples.


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Al Jefferson is anchoring one of the best defenses in the league... so there's that.

And Tyson Chandler and Marc Gasol have NOT always been considered elite, anchor-type defenders.
I can recall a time when I suggested we sign Chandler and was laughed at. Not to mention, we wouldn't have been able to trade a package centered around Jose for him (or the eventual package of Diop that brought him to Dallas).
And I don't even want to get into what some people said when Memphis traded for Gasol ... it wasn't pretty.

[magoon]

Al Jefferson is anchoring one of the best defenses in the league... so there's that.

Although I agree with your broader point, Jefferson isn't the anchor of Charlotte's defense - that's Michael Kidd-Gilchrist's job. With MKG on the court Charlotte has a top-five defense; without him they're middle of the pack.

[Balls of Steel]

Sometimes I fantasize about what the Raps would be like with Al Jefferson as its starting power forward. We probably could add 6 - 8 more wins by now.