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    Smart = Rodney Stuckey

    Waiters attitude is what kills his perception. DeRozans first two years in the league were not that great, but he was quiet and perceived as a hard worker in the off-season. His 3rd season his with an expanded role saw his fg% drop, but we are not that hard on him.
    Waiters is still not a finished product, and right now he can go either way, but I will cut the kid some slack and wit one more year.

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    Quote imanshumpert wrote: View Post
    Waiters is hot garbage. Inefficient

    I agree about his attitude, he reminds me of a young Kyle Lowry (both are from Philly).

    But come on, Waiters is really good, he just doesn't fit aside Kyrie Irving cuz neither of them is a real point guard. He is a playmaker and a shotmaker. They both play better when the other one is not on the floor. Blame his non-succes on playing with the Cavaliers, not on his talents.




    Still I wouldn't trade Ross for him aswell, even though he is a better talent, he needs the ball in his hands, and so does DeMar, and Kyle.
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    ^ That is ONE game. With zero team defense being played

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    ^Still it shows his big stage presence.

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    Quote OptimalOptimist wrote: View Post
    ^Still it shows his big stage presence.

    These are highlights, I'm not sure why this matters.

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    Quote WJF wrote: View Post
    Smart = Rodney Stuckey
    Possibly the best comparison I've seen yet, nice one!

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    Quote imanshumpert wrote: View Post
    These are highlights, I'm not sure why this matters.
    Because we're looking at potential?
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    Quote OptimalOptimist wrote: View Post
    Because we're looking at potential?
    Not trying to put myself on either side here, but I could put a pretty solid looking highlights video together of Adam Morrison...
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    Quote Joey wrote: View Post
    Not trying to put myself on either side here, but I could put a pretty solid looking highlights video together of Adam Morrison...
    In the NBA? Would love that.

    But we're getting aside of the topic here, i'm just not agreeing to Waiters is trash. He's a really good player placed in a toxic environnement from a basketball, coaching and management perspective.
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    Quote Joey wrote: View Post
    Not trying to put myself on either side here, but I could put a pretty solid looking highlights video together of Adam Morrison...
    Could put an even better one of Joe Alexander, who somehow was like 1000x worse than Morrison :d

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    Hmm


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    Jarnell Stokes' scouting video

    http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/...l-Stokes-6282/


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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    Jarnell Stokes' scouting video

    http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/...l-Stokes-6282/


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    Quote Yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
    You really have your heart set on this guy don't you
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    Add me to the like list on Stokes !
    Either Stokes or McGary... I like em both and if one is on the board at 37 we will get a steal. Tennessee seems to turn out sleepers. The last UT grad to make good was Tobias Harris who is just a pantload to handle down in Orlando. Stokes is bigger and plays his whole game 3 feet from the basket. He can rebound and box out. McGary is bigger still and aside from his brush with the law and a year out with an injury would be in the lottery.

    I think these guys will creep into the low 20's in the first round though as when workouts start they will likely show well.
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    Quote OptimalOptimist wrote: View Post
    I agree about his attitude, he reminds me of a young Kyle Lowry (both are from Philly).

    But come on, Waiters is really good, he just doesn't fit aside Kyrie Irving cuz neither of them is a real point guard. He is a playmaker and a shotmaker.
    A young KL is a perfect comparison. With the touch of Masai Waiters could be pretty good, not unlike Mr. Lowry.

    Waiters is a good candidate to start for a team that has a big starting PG (ex Philly) and run a PHX style 2pg lineup, or as a sixth man (because he can create his own offense).

    Whether or not people are a fan of Waiters, you cannot deny that he has all the pieces to be a very good guard in the NBA.

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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    Jarnell Stokes' scouting video

    http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/...l-Stokes-6282/


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    Quote Demographic Shift wrote: View Post
    Add me to the like list on Stokes !
    Either Stokes or McGary... I like em both and if one is on the board at 37 we will get a steal. Tennessee seems to turn out sleepers. The last UT grad to make good was Tobias Harris who is just a pantload to handle down in Orlando. Stokes is bigger and plays his whole game 3 feet from the basket. He can rebound and box out. McGary is bigger still and aside from his brush with the law and a year out with an injury would be in the lottery.

    I think these guys will creep into the low 20's in the first round though as when workouts start they will likely show well.
    I agree. I can see them both rising. Especially Stokes seeing that his only 20 year old Jr. Won't turn 21 till January. His youngest jr in the draft. Also younger than a lot of sophomores in this draft. Like Elfrid Payton(who his younger than) Stokes started college a year earlier. Ppl really don't get this is a kid that's been getting doubled teamed for last two years but, still averaged 15 n 10.


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    Quote Demographic Shift wrote: View Post
    Add me to the like list on Stokes !
    Either Stokes or McGary... I like em both and if one is on the board at 37 we will get a steal. Tennessee seems to turn out sleepers. The last UT grad to make good was Tobias Harris who is just a pantload to handle down in Orlando. Stokes is bigger and plays his whole game 3 feet from the basket. He can rebound and box out. McGary is bigger still and aside from his brush with the law and a year out with an injury would be in the lottery.

    I think these guys will creep into the low 20's in the first round though as when workouts start they will likely show well.
    Here is where I disagree u were doing so good. Stokes is a career backup. Mcgary I like him to be honest just don't big him up too much cause I want him to fall into the second round.


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    Quote grindhouse wrote: View Post
    Here is where I disagree u were doing so good. Stokes is a career backup. Mcgary I like him to be honest just don't big him up too much cause I want him to fall into the second round.


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    What do people expect to get at 20+. We're not going to get superstar at the 20th pick.


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    I'm really liking Elfrid Payton!
    He's going up draft boards like crazy
    I really hope he's around at 20

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