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  • stooley wrote: View Post
    That's an ideal offseason in my books.
    Well it would definitely be my ideal off season.


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    • Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
      Well it would definitely be my ideal off season.


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      If we get grant, we need the extra scoring punch that VC brings us - so it balances out perfectly.

      Back ups:
      Greivis
      Vinsanity
      Jerami Grant
      2Pat
      Bismark Biyombo

      edit: man, looking at that, our team really is just a few small pieces and some internal development away from being a real threat

      although, how's VC's ball handling? is he up to snuff to help carry this lineup? you don't want the ball in Grant or Biyombo's hands too often
      Last edited by stooley; Thu May 8, 2014, 12:32 PM.
      "Bruno?
      Heh, if he is in the D-league still in a few years I will be surprised.
      He's terrible."

      -Superjudge, 7/23

      Hope you're wrong.

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      • I am not sold on Grant as a 3 at the next level at all, very limited offensively, and while he has great length, coming from Syracuse he has not shown if he can guard on the perimeter at all.
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        • WJF wrote: View Post
          I am not sold on Grant as a 3 at the next level at all, very limited offensively, and while he has great length, coming from Syracuse he has not shown if he can guard on the perimeter at all.
          you seem like you know what you're talking about, which is a lot more than I can say for myself
          "Bruno?
          Heh, if he is in the D-league still in a few years I will be surprised.
          He's terrible."

          -Superjudge, 7/23

          Hope you're wrong.

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          • MACK11 wrote: View Post
            And Carmelo, Lebron, KD, etc
            Yeah, those are the guys that it's more about for me. We need a wing player who can guard those bigger, stronger SFs, but is versatile enough that they can guard SGs on the perimeter or post, and even guard some PFs. My ideal rotation has two 3 and D guys who can cover 3 positions, and have slightly different specialties, one excellent against speed, the other excellent against strength. Ross has the solid potential to be that speed specialist, and either Grant or Inglis could be the other, minus the 3pt shot. Can either of them develop their shot a few years down the road enough to provide some floor spacing? I like Inglis' chance of becoming that guy more than Grant's, and if I was picking between these two at 20 right now, and if I ignored all the mocks that I've seen and just went on video and scouting reports, I'd probably pick Inglis over Grant.

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            • WJF wrote: View Post
              I am not sold on Grant as a 3 at the next level at all, very limited offensively, and while he has great length, coming from Syracuse he has not shown if he can guard on the perimeter at all.
              His very good laterally with a 7-2 wingspan. Dd 6-9 Ross 6-7 wingspan. He never really got a chance to prove it cause, of the zone they play.

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              • Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
                His very good laterally with a 7-2 wingspan. Dd 6-9 Ross 6-7 wingspan. He never really got a chance to prove it cause, of the zone they play.

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                No question he passes the eye test as far a great size fro a 3, but other than garbage plays and finishing around te hoop, he is brutal offensively. Can't dribble, can't shoot, and I don't mean he is just not good at it, he is really bad. There just seems to be a couple other guys that can improve the wing size and bring both defense and offense who I like better, Warren and Inglis being the 2 that intrigue me the most.
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                • WJF wrote: View Post
                  No question he passes the eye test as far a great size fro a 3, but other than garbage plays and finishing around te hoop, he is brutal offensively. Can't dribble, can't shoot, and I don't mean he is just not good at it, he is really bad. There just seems to be a couple other guys that can improve the wing size and bring both defense and offense who I like better, Warren and Inglis being the 2 that intrigue me the most.
                  I can't like this because I'm on mobile, but this is my view as well

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                  • Warren's pretty bad on D though
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                    • Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
                      20 Toronto Raptors
                      Jerami Grant SF
                      20 years old; 6'8"; 220 lbs.
                      Syracuse, Sophomore

                      A rangy small forward with size and defensive versatility is something the Raptors have mentioned as being a position of need since their recent encounter with Joe Johnson in the first round of the playoffs. Jerami Grant certainly fills the bill.

                      From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz318oy0LmM
                      http://www.draftexpress.com


                      Draft express seems to agree with Grant being the pick . Draft him and acquire Biyombo and bring back VC. Resign Lowry, GV and PATMAN and that's a good offseason.


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                      My ideal offseason. But if LaVine is still on the board at 20. I still would take him over Grant or anyone else.
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                      • white men can't jump wrote: View Post
                        By glut....you mean 3? Gay, Ross and DeMar?
                        My bad last year then, we had like gay, demar, Ross, Anderson, pietris, fields, kleiza
                        I'm back. I no longer worship joe johnson

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                        • I have noticed a lot of people here are enamored with drafting player X just to match up against player Y. Not a good idea.

                          When drafting a player, draft one that has the skills and work ethic to succeed, regardless of position. That way if he turns out and you still need to address the matchup issue of one singular player in the league you have trade assets. (to an extent....don't draft 10 PGs ala kahn)

                          TRex wrote: View Post
                          if LaVine is still on the board at 20. I still would take him over Grant or anyone else.
                          I agree. LaVine is hyper athletic and has the ability to shoot with a good base of other skills (ie: handles/passing ok), you don't pass on that even if he plays the pg/sg.. Personally I don't pass on that even though there are some red flags concerning his locker room disturbances.

                          -He is one of the few prospects that has had youtube.com videos of himself working out in empty gyms late over the course of the season (like Lillard) so I do think he is one of the harder workers to be drafted.
                          -His personal issues will be corrected easily if we have an established group of guys who are good and have credentials (ie our core) so he doesn't speak out like he did when he was playing behind a worse player in college.
                          -hyper athletic and extremely quick, which translates very well to the nba level
                          -has range. We need spacing and less projects in terms of developing shots (which takes time)

                          I think he is a low risk guy. His floor is to be a role player who can just shoot (which is fine at 20), with a ceiling of a more athletic 2-way Kevin Martin (which would be fantastic)

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                          • OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post
                            I have noticed a lot of people here are enamored with drafting player X just to match up against player Y. Not a good idea.

                            When drafting a player, draft one that has the skills and work ethic to succeed, regardless of position. That way if he turns out and you still need to address the matchup issue of one singular player in the league you have trade assets. (to an extent....don't draft 10 PGs ala kahn)



                            I agree. LaVine is hyper athletic and has the ability to shoot with a good base of other skills (ie: handles/passing ok), you don't pass on that even if he plays the pg/sg.. Personally I don't pass on that even though there are some red flags concerning his locker room disturbances.

                            -He is one of the few prospects that has had youtube.com videos of himself working out in empty gyms late over the course of the season (like Lillard) so I do think he is one of the harder workers to be drafted.
                            -His personal issues will be corrected easily if we have an established group of guys who are good and have credentials (ie our core) so he doesn't speak out like he did when he was playing behind a worse player in college.
                            -hyper athletic and extremely quick, which translates very well to the nba level
                            -has range. We need spacing and less projects in terms of developing shots (which takes time)

                            I think he is a low risk guy. His floor is to be a role player who can just shoot (which is fine at 20), with a ceiling of a more athletic 2-way Kevin Martin (which would be fantastic)
                            I just feel like Masai is looking to draft player that will fit Casey style of play. High motor defensive guys. That's what I feel the direction would be going into the draft.


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                            • Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
                              I just feel like Masai is looking to draft player that will fit Casey style of play. High motor defensive guys. That's what I feel the direction would be going into the draft.


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                              That's certainly in line with what he's said publically of late, regarding rim protectors and bigger wings.

                              Of course, given those particular roles, it seems to me that they're the type to be more likely filled by veteran players (ie: via free agency or trade), as opposed to by raw rookies.

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                              • Hard to feel out what MU is going to do in this draft. I hope he gets an opportunity to move up so he can get the guy he wants. Even if Lowry and GV are back I have no problems drafting a PG either.

                                Could move GV to backup SG and than use the PG to backup Lowry. Would still love to nab Ennis some how.

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